Good-Bye Jeep Liberty! WELCOME BACK JEEP CHEROKEE!
 

More great news for off- roaders and future off-roaders like me. Not only has jeep, Upgraded, Updated, and Showed up the competition with the new Jeep Grand Cherokee... Now they are bringing back the Cherokee name with "Real" Off-Road Capability that rivals Wrangler and Grand Cherokee. (That's how it used to be.) :usa:
Jeep is bringing back the ORIGINAL affordable off-roading/suv with the new Jeep Cherokee with a 45% increase in fuel economy and a more upscale look.

Check out the link. Has video of new cherokee Off-Roading.

2014 Jeep Cherokee Off-Road POV - YouTube

2014 Jeep Cherokee Tackles Off-Road Course in New Video | Edmunds.com

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Your post is actually the first positive one I've seen about the new Cherokee. I know a lot of people are really hating on the style. I don't like it either.

I think it looks ok. The Grand cherokee in my opinion is nicer BUT, these Jeep's are about so much more than looking kewl brutha. The capability from off the lot is insane. The only competitor these vehicles really have is land rover/range rover. But these are a third less in price and somewhat more reliable. Love or hate looks, but attention to minor details and paint quality is much higher than on the Liberty.

Believe me, I know what Jeeps are about. I just think this one is fugly.

The Wrangler and Grand Cherokee look good, however.

I don't think I've placed a direct opinion on looks yet. But Looks wise the other two are much stronger.:tup:

Oh jumpin' back in quick. I test drove the Grand Cherokee overland summit. All I can say is WOW!!!!

Jeep is expecting to sell 250,000 of these worldwide...

2014 Jeep Cherokee May See Global Sales of 250,000 a Year - WOT on Motor Trend

Almost...ALMOST! :D

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:D I love how these look.

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I have to agree with m4a1mustang, it looks kinda fuqly to me... here's my opinion on the current jeep lineup

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^ note that's based on just looks

something about curvy looking SUVs don't look right to me... i like SUVs to be boxy looking with large tires :yum:

I don't like the liberty, patriot and compass. Those 3 also have limited off-road capability. I like the new upcoming cherokee based more on performance over looks. I don't think it's ugly though. But, I don't see it quite as a good looking vehicle yet, either. I'm just happy the cherokee will have full rock climbing capability. :happydance:

ya I'm kinda on the fence with the grand cherokee, i think it'd look better with a slight lift and larger tires but as is, it looks kinda like a crossover SUV
i'd still totally drive one as my daily though :tup:

Isn't it a FWD based Cute-Ute?

They all have AWD options which is the only consideration from my standpoint.

Only like the SRT8, - though think its 2012/13

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woo-hoo another epic car ruined by slapping a meaningful name on a pathetic chassis.


I'm almost as excited as I was when they moved the Wrangler to a mini-van chassis.

Since they used JK for the chassis code then, you figure this one will be LOL?

Damn... I don't know a whole lot about these types of vehicles. So what went wrong exactly with the new chassis?

School me on this... please. :tiphat:

I know but I'm confused. Where you just joking when you said off road capabilities to rival Wrangler?

I own a 2011 grand cherokee overland edition with 5.7 hemi.....this truck is facking sick! Haha i love it! I dont take it off road though cuz well.....its a 50k vehicle. Haha idk bout the new design but as far as everything else.....i like. Prolly just as nice as my jeep. :D

shouldn't be difficult considering the JK chassis isn't exactly known for it's offroad prowess.


XJ and TJ were the last real Jeeps. TBH I doubt we'll ever see a real one again.

Well maybe rivaling was a stretch, but you sure as hell cant get far on rocks in the 13 liberty from what I've heard. All of the affordable jeeps aren't very good for rock climbing. But this new Cherokee is supposed to be...

the short answer is it is a road going unibody instead of the abusable one on the old cherokee.

So with body mounts and a lift kit, the JK would still suck for off-road?

Ooooohhhhhh... I got you now.

suck is probably harsh, but the chassis simply isn't made for it.


Off-roading is interesting because most cars are far more capable than people realize. It's not so much a lack of ability to accomplish tasks as it is a lack of durability when tasks are not executed correctly.

You'd be surprised to see what, say, a stock FJ or something can do. Unfortunately, you come down on some rocks wrong and wind up with permanent damage.

Went to turn in lease this past Monday and they had a used 2012 overland on the lot. Black metalflake, with a brown interior, really sweet.

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wow, that might actually top aztek.

I test drove it and loved it. I want to get one. I bought my wife's altima straight out so I have Good equity in that car for a trade or to sell. I've always wanted to get into off-roading. Just never had the time and money. Sports cars and jeeps? lol Money pit. I wouldn't mind a Grand Cherokee limited or Wrangler. I love the comfort/ability of the cherokee. i love the versatility/ruggedness of the wrangler. Also, the Wrangler is more affordable in full on, Off road guise.

But now I'm even nervous to buy one with Red's comments. Maybe I need to do more research on Jeep vehicles before plunging in.

I want to get into off roading and rock climbing too

Have you looked at the 4runner trail edition? It has a body-on-frame chassis and you can get KDSS too :yum:

If you want to get into off-roading, buy an XJ Cherokee. It's more capable than the Wrangler, which surprises most people. It's cheap, the 4.0L engine is bulletproof, and if you put a rock through the oil pan, you did it on a $4000 car, not a $40,000 car.

Looks like it has amazing performance and makes a strong case as a Jeep alternative. Sadly, I just don't like the way Fore-runners have looked since 2002. I like the Fj but the wife hates them. i tried convincing her for us to get one before I spent money on the altima. It was a no go.

I had an 89 XJ. It was bulletproof until it caught fire on the interstate.:shakes head: I poured thousands into that thing to get it reliable....didn't work. The XJ's are great, especially when modified, but they don't come anywhere close to the cj/tj platform in extreme off road capability with modifications. For one, the xj is a unibody. That in itself is very limiting for off road use. It does win in terms of versatility and usability, which are huge factors for doing other stuf besides off roading.

OP, check out the Moab Easter Jeep Safari concepts for the real badass looking jeeps.

For pretty much anything that resembles a budget build, the XJ tends to be a better route....a lot of that has to do with cost of entry. Unibody is kind of misleading, since the body welded rather than bolted on. it's much more beefy than most people realize. A couple of stiffeners usually get the chassis where it needs to be for more serious off-roading.

I've never seen the unibody become a limitation, even in extreme trails. There's a lot of guys that do things in XJs when the TJs and YJs turn around. You'll see a lot on forums about fatiguing the unibody and not being able to replace it, but by the point that occurs, you've generally destroyed something else on the car, not to mention I would just as quickly shift base cars as I'd shift frames.

What reliability issues did you have? I think I owned three that all went well beyond 250k and were sold running.

Fringe capability is arguably better (ie, wrangler has more favorable approach angles, but double whammy at Moab is far easier to manage in a cherokee), but for most first-time off-roaders, the lower cost of entry in the XJ means enough left over for the parts you need. YMMV.

I've owned 3 XJs and a tj. Loved all of them, but the xj is far cheaper, and when there are major wheelin' expenses coming--not to mention a sharp learning curve--cheaper is better.


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So basically. Don't buy a new Jeep. Buy an old Jeep chassis and build it up? Is this the right thing for me to do?

If you want to offroad, old and cheap is better.

There are certain features to look for (axles, options, don't get the 4 cyl wrangler) that are pretty well documented on jeep forums.

Anytime you wheel a vehicle on a real trail, there's a risk it doesn't come back. Better to do it with a cheap hobby car than something shiny and new.

Would older land cruisers be good as well? I've always loved the look of early 90s and older land cruisers and they seem to have a good following :yum:
I've been looking around and its hard to find one with low mileage though

you might also consider the ford raptor too as far as off-roading that thing is a beast, a little on the expensive side but eventually they will come down in price as far as used ones go

The raptor is more of a dune-type off road vehicle than a trail vehicle like the wrangler. It's better suited to Baja racing than traditional off-roading.

Kewl. I think I wasnt a rock capable off-road vehicle.:tup:

Thanx for the advice.:tiphat:

The current grand Cherokee is just a restyled Mercedes SUV with Chrysler powerplant. I'm afraid Fiat will screw up next gen of grand cherokee. I love my Mercedes based Jeep.