Toyota

bigsix

How many of you all like Toyota's engineering and cars a lot ?

I hadn't driven one in a few years until driving my friend's 2010 Toyota Highlander Limited. It's got a 3.5 liter V6 w/ 270 horsepower. Pearl White exterior over light grey Leather Interior. I was surprised that the transmission had both SPORT mode and Manual Shifting(-/+) using the console shifter.
I love Toyota's attention to detail, refinement and precision in their engineering. So nice. . .

DarkJak

I like them as reliable, practical cars that are well thought out for the user.
That said, FRS aside, there's no chance of my buying any of their current models until I have to (baby). And even then, I'd go for something more special if possible, like a hot hatch or a nice rwd wagon. Because life is short, and Ill probably only own less than a dozen cars before I die, so I'm going to make every one count.

DEpointfive0

I LOVE Toyotas, our family has been pretty much been Lexus/Toyota cars only until my Maxima, 370Z, and another Maxima...

I hate to say it... But I fúcked up... I will never buy another Nissan again unless they somehow win me over big time...

EDIT: I HATE the FRS/BRZ

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/Angelo350Z/

Toyotas are great, reliable cars. Too bad they've become boring in last decade. Sure, they came out with a few exciting Lexus models, but they're slowly becoming the Buick of Japanese cars. Honda's not far behind in the snooze factor. So sad.

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bigsix

I think the brand is slowly shedding that image it's had for many years.

While the LFA was pretty ridiculous w/ it's V10 screamer, carbon fiber weave, and astronomical price-tag, the IS-F, FR S/86, and GS350 F sport are starting to turn the wheels in the right direction. I believe that even the next gen. Corolla and Camry will be much better driving cars.

their slogan is pretty fitting: The Pursuit of Perfection

DEpointfive0

I agree completely!
Lexus made the ISF, and I don't count the LFA because they only made 500 and it's $400k

The reason why I chose a Maxima the first time over a Toyota Avalon was that Toyota just doesn't get enough out of their motors...
Both have 3.5L engines, Toyota gets 268HP leading to a 0-60 of 7.9 seconds and the Maxima has 290HP and a 0-60 of 5.8 seconds

The second time I chose a Maxima was just because I think it looked good and I don't like the 2013 Avalon, but now I pray, every day, that both cars get totaled... And my fat àss will RUN to the nearest Lexus/Toyota dealershit and say:

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DEpointfive0

I agree with this too...

At the same time, I will say I'm biased towards Lexus/Toyota.
I own an ISF as well... It's got about the same miles as the 370Z... Both are driven REALLY hard, the ISF maybe more, because the smile of flooring it and hearing that roar is intoxicating... Only problem it's had... A $1400 brake job...
The 370Z... Problem after problem...

I'm glad I bought the warranty on the Nissan, I'm glad I didn't waste my money on the warranty on the Lexus.

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bigsix

Yeah, i hear ya ^ ^ . I was so impressed with the 2010 Highlander's 3.5 liter V6 in manual shift mode. It has less power than Nissan's Maxima of the same year, yet exact same displacement V6. It also weighs more in its SUV/truck frame.
Despite these shortcomings, I much prefer Toyota's drive-train and driving dynamics. Something about their attention to detail, refinement, and utter drive for perfection in excellence .

DEpointfive0

Damn, it looks like you like Lexus/Toyota more than me! LOL!!!

My dad has had 3 Highlander's in... 12 years, awesome cars, we BEAT THE SHÍT out of them, and my dad ain't your scheduled maintanence kind of guy... LOL!!! And they all worked well until their deaths... (ALL totaled)

His coworker had a 2001 that he just got rid of last year... It had OVER 400,000 miles, granted all highway miles, but holy crap, it's still a lot, and it only started to burn about a quart of oil every 5k miles after it hit 350k miles...
Same with my best friend's Lexus RX300, 2003, 268k miles, and that thing KICKED LIKE A MULE, LOL

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bigsix

NIce ! dude. . . my Friend wants his to go 500,000 miles. I told him as long as he maintains it well, the engine should be able to go that distance--- he's got 50k on it now. Stil in its childhood, the engine

DEpointfive0

I agree, but it's still amazing that even their automatic transmissions last that long too
That highlander didn't have any fluid changes, but then again it wasn't changing gears every 30 seconds... Then again, the Lexus, daily driven in the city, and when my friend himself drove it... He BEAT it, lol

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FairladyZ

My friends 1994 Camry had 455000 miles. Still ran strong, only upgraded because they felt it was time. It didnt give out yet.

My parents had an 88 Camry which was one of the first cars they bought so they thought it be great just to keep it around. It had about 250k miles and still ran strong with no problems and all it got were oil changes. They finally got rid of it just because it looked way to old. Up until it was given away for donations it still ran strong.

For reliability I think Toyota/Lexus knows wtf is up.

SurfDog

I have a Toyota FJ and love it. Best snow car out there and I should know (i live at 9000 feet ) easy maintenance reliable. Awesome. (needed $2,500 suspension to bring out its Best)

I have a 09 370Z and love it! Best street car I've ever had.... but it needed $10k in random upgrades to really make it shine. (clutch, flywheel, oil cooler, full breather mods etc...)

Ive had a:
91 Toyota Pathfinder
77 Datsun 280Z
89 Toyota forerunner
97? Toyota Exterra

I loved all these cars. The only car I've ever owned and hated was a 94 Ford probe that my Ex dumped on me...

Toyotas are rock solid. Nissans are diamonds in the rough but really amazing cars.

I have owned and loved both, but if you want solid and reliable go with Toyota. They run forever with no hassles.

Of course they don't make racers. I've driven the FRS. It is nimble and light... and weak like a Miata. Don't kid yourself that it compares in any way with a 370.

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UNKNOWN_370

you hit it on the head. I'd buy the whole nissan line-up 2 times over before touching Honda-Acura or toyota-lexus vehicles.

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shadoquad

Toyotas are ok. Cheap reliable boring family cars.

They can be fun to drive, but so can most any modern car. Every boring joe daily driver can have an AT with sport shift dropped in it.

I loved the Toyota of the 80's and 90's. The first gen MR2 was a blast to drive. I can only imagine that's the same for the next MR2, then the MR-S, and of course the Supra.

I want Toyota to get back to making enthusiast vehicles instead of only making slow cars to congest the suburban highway.


Lexus is a little different, but not by much. I don't pay that money for a BMW, I would certainly not drop it on a more boring Lexus. Also, personal biases being what they are, put a manual transmission in one of those overweight dogs, would ya?


Also, I think the FR-S is a fantastic direction for the company. They should have released it as a Toyota FT-86, but what's done is done.


Edit: I forgot to touch on Toyota Trucks, which I understand are excellent. I'm just not a truck guy.