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Toyotas are ok. Cheap reliable boring family cars. They can be fun to drive, but so can most any modern car. Every boring joe daily driver can have an AT

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Old 03-18-2013, 08:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Toyotas are ok. Cheap reliable boring family cars.

They can be fun to drive, but so can most any modern car. Every boring joe daily driver can have an AT with sport shift dropped in it.

I loved the Toyota of the 80's and 90's. The first gen MR2 was a blast to drive. I can only imagine that's the same for the next MR2, then the MR-S, and of course the Supra.

I want Toyota to get back to making enthusiast vehicles instead of only making slow cars to congest the suburban highway.


Lexus is a little different, but not by much. I don't pay that money for a BMW, I would certainly not drop it on a more boring Lexus. Also, personal biases being what they are, put a manual transmission in one of those overweight dogs, would ya?


Also, I think the FR-S is a fantastic direction for the company. They should have released it as a Toyota FT-86, but what's done is done.


Edit: I forgot to touch on Toyota Trucks, which I understand are excellent. I'm just not a truck guy.

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Toyotas are ok. Cheap reliable boring family cars.

They can be fun to drive, but so can most any modern car. Every boring joe daily driver can have an AT with sport shift dropped in it.

I loved the Toyota of the 80's and 90's. The first gen MR2 was a blast to drive. I can only imagine that's the same for the next MR2, then the MR-S, and of course the Supra.

I want Toyota to get back to making enthusiast vehicles instead of only making slow cars to congest the suburban highway.


Lexus is a little different, but not by much. I don't pay that money for a BMW, I would certainly not drop it on a more boring Lexus. Also, personal biases being what they are, put a manual transmission in one of those overweight dogs, would ya?


Also, I think the FR-S is a fantastic direction for the company. They should have released it as a Toyota FT-86, but what's done is done.


Edit: I forgot to touch on Toyota Trucks, which I understand are excellent. I'm just not a truck guy.
Contrary to some beliefs... Not all AT shifted cars are made the same. Some are exciting, others are boring as shyt.

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I have no issue with toyota's of they past. They are legendary. I have issues with Toyota's since around 2002-2003.
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Contrary to some beliefs... Not all AT shifted cars are made the same. Some are exciting, others are boring as shyt.
This is a fair point. You're right about that. A friend and I were talking about a recent test drive he had with a paddle-shift car. He said the shifts were terribly slow compared to others he had driven. So, kudos to Toyota if they make a good paddle shifting AT.
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This is pretty incredible that many of you guys feel the same way about Toyota Motor Company as I do . . hahaha. Did not expect this many replies to the topic. Thanks
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I love my hybrid vehicles. Are they fun to drive? Not really. Yet they are just so reliable and they are great values. I have 80K miles on my 2010 Prius, only thing I have had to do is change tires, oil and replace a bad hatch strut. Car is as solid as ever and it gets 50mpg.


I had a MR2 turbo, I thought the car was overrated. It wasn't reliable and the driving position is just weird. Who the hell thought it was a good idea to shift the pedals closer to the center of the car!
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I'm a Honda guy all the way, integra prelude s2000 i owned. Even though Honda sucks now no more economy enthusiast cars or rwd.. But they still own Nissan in terms of quality it's not even close. Toyota for sure too although I like the old Tacoma and supra only.

I really hate to bash Nissan so much but dam they cheap out in so many places
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I'm a Honda guy all the way, integra prelude s2000 i owned. Even though Honda sucks now no more economy enthusiast cars or rwd.. But they still own Nissan in terms of quality it's not even close. Toyota for sure too although I like the old Tacoma and supra only.

I really hate to bash Nissan so much but dam they cheap out in so many places

Yeahhhhh... I agree...


My biggest thing with Nissan, that inherently every Nissan has, WHY DO THEY ALL HAVE TO RATTLE?!?!?!
My damn headliner rattles!!!
And I know the 370Z is a sports car and we "want to save weight" but why can't you put SOME sort of insulation for the sound???
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dude i got a 2005 Frontier, the seats rattled the paint chipped off. The tranny jerked around the gas mileage was embarrassing. The only good thing was a 4.0 VQ Engine that had torque. We still have the truck just to have a truck but no way in hell does it compare to a Toyota Tacoma..
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My biggest thing with Nissan, that inherently every Nissan has, WHY DO THEY ALL HAVE TO RATTLE?!?!?!
My damn headliner rattles!!!
And I know the 370Z is a sports car and we "want to save weight" but why can't you put SOME sort of insulation for the sound???
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dude i got a 2005 Frontier, the seats rattled the paint chipped off. The tranny jerked around the gas mileage was embarrassing. The only good thing was a 4.0 VQ Engine that had torque. We still have the truck just to have a truck but no way in hell does it compare to a Toyota Tacoma..
sucks for you guys, i will admit my 2002 altima rattled a little after a while, but after i upgraded to a 2005 altima 3.5 in over 160,000 miles i never had any problems with rattles and the same in my Z, the 33k miles i had it i never had that issue....my 96 civic on the other hand has plenty of things that rattle even with it only having 132,000 miles on it, gotta say it gets great gas mileage though lol
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Honda Prelude most reliable car i had, only issue was h22 oil consumption which mine didnt really have.
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If Toyota had kept the Supra I wouldn't own a 370z.
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If Toyota had kept the Supra I wouldn't own a 370z.
Then again, the Supra would now be $60-80k
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Then again, the Supra would now be $60-80k
But used ones wouldn't be as expensive either! I'd love to be able to pick up an 1998 MKIV Turbo with the targa top.
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