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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 Put it like this. All pony cars are muscle cars, BUT not all muscle cars are pony cars. Now take your geritol and chill. Well, if

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Old 03-09-2013, 10:32 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Put it like this. All pony cars are muscle cars, BUT not all muscle cars are pony cars. Now take your geritol and chill.
Well, if a V6 mustang is a muscle car to you, then my 370Z is a foreign exotic.
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Put it like this. All pony cars are muscle cars, BUT not all muscle cars are pony cars. Now take your geritol and chill.
i would say
v6 camaros/mustangs/challengers are pony cars
v8 camaros/mustangs/challengers are muscle cars
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v6 camaros/mustangs/challengers are pony cars
v8 camaros/mustangs/challengers are muscle cars
I can agree with this statement most. Cuz no, the V6's aren't muscle. But i don't ever even think about the v6 models till people bring them up. lol but like said. Not all muscle cars are pony cars. But all pony cars are muscle cars based on that all gravy V8 option.


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I might go back to the "muscle" car when they start making them with curves again. That's why I bought the Z. It has the shape of a beautiful woman but the new domestics look like some fat overweight Mc Donalds eatin heifer. Change the body and they'll get me back. I didn't buy a sports car to haul kids or groceries.
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They might have to keep the car big just to get seats that can actually fit an American...
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They might have to keep the car big just to get seats that can actually fit an American...
That would explain the size...
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They might have to keep the car big just to get seats that can actually fit an American...
True... most complaints on the Z by domestic lovers is that the seats are way too narrow. lol. I think that's ridiculous. I'm what the medical industry calls normal sized. I find the Z seats to be perfect sports car seat. I love the camaro but the seats leave me with a little play. But they are comfortable as hell. Caddy comfortable. But if you can't fit nicely in Z seats? Stop going through the drive through and consider the produce section of whole foods as the primary source of nourishment.
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True... most complaints on the Z by domestic lovers is that the seats are way too narrow. lol. I think that's ridiculous. I'm what the medical industry calls normal sized. I find the Z seats to be perfect sports car seat. I love the camaro but the seats leave me with a little play. But they are comfortable as hell. Caddy comfortable. But if you can't fit nicely in Z seats? Stop going through the drive through and consider the produce section of whole foods as the primary source of nourishment.
Just think who makes the Camero. A company who makes cars and trucks for fat people.
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They might have to keep the car big just to get seats that can actually fit an American...
Well, Miss Evelyn sure looks good driving it

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It's interesting my neighbor is a self-proclaimed Chevy guy, yet the last two used cars he bought were Ford products. I may be reading into this too much, but he seems to like Ford a lot, too.
I sat inside a 13' Mustang GT Cali.Spec. the other nite. Do you Mustang guys think it's any different /better than the base GT? I like it in Race Red w/ the scoops/splitter/etc... Hot DAMN its sexy!
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It's interesting my neighbor is a self-proclaimed Chevy guy, yet the last two used cars he bought were Ford products. I may be reading into this too much, but he seems to like Ford a lot, too.
I sat inside a 13' Mustang GT Cali.Spec. the other nite. Do you Mustang guys think it's any different /better than the base GT? I like it in Race Red w/ the scoops/splitter/etc... Hot DAMN its sexy!
lol this is a camaro thread

Anyway, briefly, the Cali package is an appearance package more than anything. Custom grille, striping, and a light that projects a Mustang image onto the ground. lol

Anyhow, I love the way that Camaros look. I think they're fun to drive, but feel very "big" and have terrible sight lines and cheap interior. But it seems that they are starting to beat Mustangs around racing circuits, and that's pretty impressive to me.
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lol this is a camaro thread

Anyway, briefly, the Cali package is an appearance package more than anything. Custom grille, striping, and a light that projects a Mustang image onto the ground. lol

Anyhow, I love the way that Camaros look. I think they're fun to drive, but feel very "big" and have terrible sight lines and cheap interior. But it seems that they are starting to beat Mustangs around racing circuits, and that's pretty impressive to me.
It's that 1LE package... It's a monster!!!! That thing gets me horny!!!!
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True... most complaints on the Z by domestic lovers is that the seats are way too narrow. lol. I think that's ridiculous. I'm what the medical industry calls normal sized. I find the Z seats to be perfect sports car seat. I love the camaro but the seats leave me with a little play. But they are comfortable as hell. Caddy comfortable. But if you can't fit nicely in Z seats? Stop going through the drive through and consider the produce section of whole foods as the primary source of nourishment.
It is sad what is "normal", now days.
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Dang, I've yet to sit inside a Camaro and already a new refresh. I read and heard about its awful visibility. I guess same could be said about the 370z but when I had the Nismo with the gigantic wing, I was still ok with visibility but I did add those blind spot mirrors to help me out.
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Dang, I've yet to sit inside a Camaro and already a new refresh. I read and heard about its awful visibility. I guess same could be said about the 370z but when I had the Nismo with the gigantic wing, I was still ok with visibility but I did add those blind spot mirrors to help me out.
I had a 370 nismo and for sure the Camaro has better visibility.

those people who say the Camaro is too big, well I like its big car ride. Very comfortable. I feel i can drive 4 hrs straight without any trouble. If they made it smaller, maybe its performance and handling would improve but it probably it would lose its big car ride.

the 370z isn't exactly small either, didn't nissan say the next Z would be smaller?
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