FWD BRZ Fighter? Thoughts for Nissan Lovers!

ZBro16 · 03-22-2013, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by nuTinmuch

Did you watch the video?

"The truth is, the Civic has way stickier tires, and if all things were equal the BRZ would be 2 or 3 seconds faster."

And before you say "but they are the tires it comes with!" -- well, not quite. The thing about the HFP package is that it comes with the wheels, the tire choice is entirely up to you and costs extra. Likewise, it isn't a cheap "package" either.

2013 Honda Civic Si Coupe HFP - Official Honda Website

Read the fine print:

Replacement tires required. Yokohama AVID W4S Ultra High Performance All-Season tires (215/40R18) are recommended but not included in the HFP package.

How much is this Civic? (Can't currently watch the vid). My guess is well over $30k like that Mugen edition they used to make. That is a bit more than a BRZ Premium. I have read repeatedly that the stock wheel/tire combo is the weakest link in the car. Edmunds actually replaced the set on their test car with a set of TE37s and stickier rubber and it performed a ton better on their road test.

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Also -- on Subaru's AWD system. It's actually a very basic system, way less advanced than most of 'em out there. But that's also why it is so good -- simplicity is good sometimes.

What's out there for $25k that's equal or better?

Red__Zed · 03-22-2013, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ZBro16

What's out there for $25k that's equal or better?

You'd be hard pressed to find a Subaru for less than $25k anymore.

You would probably have to have a good friend find a clean used one on a 370z forum, being sold primarily because the owner was moving out of state.

Frankly, that just doesn't sound realistic to me.

Lug · 03-22-2013, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ZBro16

What's out there for $25k that's equal or better?

For me, the Ford Focus ST....that's why I bought it instead.

mick · 03-28-2013, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

For me, the Ford Focus ST....that's why I bought it instead.

I thought I was going to get a Focus ST but in the end, I went for the WRX
It is more comfortable than I thought

Red__Zed · 03-28-2013, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mick

I thought I was going to get a Focus ST but in the end, I went for the WRX
It is more comfortable than I thought

nice choice with the limited and WRB. Good looking car

mick · 03-28-2013, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

nice choice with the limited and WRB. Good looking car

thanks

I have only put 10 miles on it and already a guy in a suped up honda wanted to challenge me :-O. He won, of course

Red__Zed · 03-29-2013, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mick

thanks

I have only put 10 miles on it and already a guy in a suped up honda wanted to challenge me :-O. He won, of course

next time remember to open your hood scoop

ZBro16 · 04-03-2013, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Lug

For me, the Ford Focus ST....that's why I bought it instead.

I was talking about AWD systems.

As far as $25k fun cars, it's really a "to each his own" category. I bought a Mazdaspeed3. The Focus ST wasn't quite out yet when I bought. Great looking car though and from what I've read, very capable.

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