Congrats on your new car. :tup:

thanks. I went to see my insurance agent and she told me I bought too many cars. So I told her I was positive this would be my last car purchase for this year :-)

I was worried about the WRX insurance rate but it's not too bad probably because I insure all my cars with this company.

I was talking about AWD systems.

As far as $25k fun cars, it's really a "to each his own" category. I bought a Mazdaspeed3. The Focus ST wasn't quite out yet when I bought. Great looking car though and from what I've read, very capable.

The BRZ works because it's an answer for the everyman that wants a fun car that's somewhat practical in the current economic climate. Not everyone needs 300hp to have fun. You can take the BRZ to the autocross course and have a blast on the weekend and make 30MPGs back and forth to work with it during the week. Bang for buck, it is among the best out there.

The car starts at $25k-ish like stated before. It's not $30k unless you want bells and whistles. You get the core of the car for its core purpose at $25k-ish.

Buy a Genesis R-Spec 2.0T and throw $5k in suspension mods into it and where are you? Z territory. Buy a 30 year old $2500 car to make it track capable, depending on the condition, you're going to drop at least another $2500 in reconditioning (and a laughable amount more in an RX-7 with apex seals among other things)

Bottom line is, there are always alternatives. If you're looking at new with a warranty and not a lot of fuss, there are NOT a lot of alternatives to the BRZ. It's ok - relax. The BRZ is a great car for what it does, especially for those who love to have fun on a beer budget. We could always enjoy champagne, but not everyone has a champagne budget. That's the point of this car. The buyer who goes after a BRZ likely doesn't have an extra $10,000 in his car budget.

It was never meant to be compared to a Z or a Camaro SS or a 30 year old Celica.

At this point in the argument, people are serving as someone who is so far against the hype you're hyping the anti-hype. Relax. It's ok. It's hilarious that there are Z drivers getting all bent out of shape over this car. Would you get bent out of shape over a new 240SX as well? It's borderline insecurity at this point. HOW DARE THEY MAKE A CAR THAT COSTS LESS AND PEOPLE THINK IT'S COOL! DON'T THEY KNOW THEY MAKE LAMBORGHINIS AND PAGANIS?!

1. That part of the conversation ended and doesn't include you.
2. My opinions of theBRZ are my own opinions based on a variety of factoirs you have negated in your argument to push your own agenda. AGAIN
3. Z driver comments are stupid based on my opinions are not based on the car i currently own. Especially considering that I almost traded my Z for another sports car 3 weeks ago. And have almost traded it twice in 3 months.

Looking for a fanboy? Look somewhere else. I just call it how i see it.