Why is Ford doing more than Nissan?

nuTinmuch · 03-06-2013, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

i go in nissan and i see cars i like. I go in Ford I see cars i like, I go into both and i also find cars i dont. The Z is technologically behind in USB ports and ancient looking nav, Stereos etc. You're talking about fun. The Z is behind in fun? How? Where? What? Come on man. Long stories for short points.

If I was walking into a dealership today with the same money I was when I bought the Z, I feel like I'd get more fun for my dollar from a Mustang than I would a Z.

I enjoyed the extra power. I enjoyed the sound. I enjoyed everything about the car but the seats, which were then fixed. Now, for practicality reasons I won't buy a Mustang, but if it was 3 years ago and this car was on the market? No contest.

I also feel like you have to push the Z past the limits of a street road to have (more) fun with it, where the Mustang doesn't necessarily need that.

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Juke is short of being kool? lol thats weak. The focus is awesome but went the disttance where??? What distance you're talking about. The juke didnt? Where? I've driven both!!! Have you? this is where the BS line blurrs bruh.

Haven't driven a Focus ST, but I have driven an AWD Juke. It wasn't fun. I mean, it was okay, it wasn't bad for a DD -- but fun? Nah. CVTs don't feel fun at all (also, while yes, this is highly subjective... I haven't ever seen someone compliment a CVT). It also doesn't feel as fast as you say. The engine feels (and sounds) like it is constantly under stress. I felt like the car was sort of flimsy (understandable, for what it is).

Also, there's a dude near me with one that has a bunch of mods on it -- it isn't nearly as mod-friendly as you make it seem. It seems that the max you can get out of the engine with a (way) aggressive tune and full bolt ons is around 60/70 more hp than stock. That also includes a bigger FMIC that either a). compromise the safety of the car, or b). looks hideous.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-06-2013, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by nuTinmuch

If I was walking into a dealership today with the same money I was when I bought the Z, I feel like I'd get more fun for my dollar from a Mustang than I would a Z.

I enjoyed the extra power. I enjoyed the sound. I enjoyed everything about the car but the seats, which were then fixed. Now, for practicality reasons I won't buy a Mustang, but if it was 3 years ago and this car was on the market? No contest.

I also feel like you have to push the Z past the limits of a street road to have (more) fun with it, where the Mustang doesn't necessarily need that.

Haven't driven a Focus ST, but I have driven an AWD Juke. It wasn't fun. I mean, it was okay, it wasn't bad for a DD -- but fun? Nah. CVTs don't feel fun at all (also, while yes, this is highly subjective... I haven't ever seen someone compliment a CVT). It also doesn't feel as fast as you say. The engine feels (and sounds) like it is constantly under stress. I felt like the car was sort of flimsy (understandable, for what it is).

Also, there's a dude near me with one that has a bunch of mods on it -- it isn't nearly as mod-friendly as you make it seem. It seems that the max you can get out of the engine with a (way) aggressive tune and full bolt ons is around 60/70 more hp than stock. That also includes a bigger FMIC that either a). compromise the safety of the car, or b). looks hideous.

3 years ago the mustang was a 4.6 and the Z was faster and way better. Cars evolve on different schedules dude. Whats better this year in ford may end up being weaker due to a new chevy ford nissan or whatever

I just drove a juke monday while getting an oil change. CVT on the juke isn't the epitome of fun but that boost kicks in and with the right nudging from the accelerator and things happen. Jukes are shiftable now with DRM. throw that in with boost and it's not that bad. CVT on an NA car vs a car wwith boost offers different experiences. You're reading too many mags and listening to too many people around you. Don't like a CVT fine? Try the manual? I have... Whats your complaint there. The juke manual is mad fun. I find fun in both, just different kinds. If all you do is throttle and brake and go around the block? You dont experience shyt. I've bought over $200,000 in nissans in the last 7 years. I go into my dealershi[p and ask for a test drive. I get the keys, no escort. Have tyou really test driven a juke? lol

Or is it FWD is only fun when its a focus and Not when its a Juke? :GTFO:

nuTinmuch · 03-06-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

3 years ago the mustang was a 4.6 and the Z was faster and way better. Cars evolve on different schedules dude. Whats better this year in ford may end up being weaker due to a new chevy ford nissan or whatever

Exactly. That's... uh, my point. And right now the Z is behind. That's literally all I've been saying the entire time.

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