The new Camaros!

JB1 · 07-16-2009, 08:25 PM

I like the looks of it, but it still is too much of a big and heavy old skool muscle car. IMHO the Z is much more of a sports car. One thing I don't understand is why I see so many Camaros at Avis, while dealers are saying they are in short supply and charging huge premiums? At each the 4 or 5 five Avis locations I have recently been to, they had at least 6 Camaros.

chad520320 · 07-16-2009, 09:35 PM

They may look nice but check out all the problems people are having with them before they even get them off the lot...
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AK370Z · 07-16-2009, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by chad520320

They may look nice but check out all the problems people are having with them before they even get them off the lot...
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001. Loose Bolts that hold fluid back causing leaks (ex: on oil pan, tranny fluid)
002. Trunk Locking mechanism (issues with opening w/o adding down pressure to top of trunk first and/or emergency release appears to be loose keeping the trunk from locking properly)
003. Loose plastic paneling around the 4-gauges cluster, launch control, cigarette power plug as well as Left and Right A-Pillars Trim Loose, sill trim loose, and dash pannel where doors and dash meet popping open.
004. Loose Spoiler/installed correctly (Re-torque Spoiler bolts)
005. Wiper transmission cable overheating from engine causing a short circuit.
006. Matching Headlight Halos strength. (one defective being dimmer then the other).
007. Mismatched paint on parts of the vehicle (including gas door). As well as paint runs or clear coat runs. Paint Chips.
008. Loose Rocker Panel "Chevrolet" causing it to peel off.
009. Minor Problem With Window Indexing.
010. Ambient Lighting on doors defective.
011. Bad radiator (leaks).
012. Hood release/latch issues (won't unhook to open the hood).
013. Gap at base of ONStar Antenna.
014. Battery cable routing near the starter has been done.
015. Digital Speedometer is off. Also keeps going on and off.
016. Bottom pulley shakes and needs replacement per dealer.
017. Broken tranny.
018. Ignition Mechanism Issue with key getting stuck in car.
019. Non RS taillights installed on RS equipped cars (all 4 of them).
020. Rocker Panel aligned with body and clipped in correctly.
021. Bumper rubs with body
022. Trunk opens with switch and remote
023. Correct speedo/tach gauge ring color
023. Ambient lighting on drivers door as bright as passenger door
024. Doors gaps /alignment
025. Dirt/bubbles in rally stripes
026. Door panel not scratched from seat belt.
027. Shift knobs wearing out extremely fast could be faulty material
028. AC system stops blowing cold air in random durations, most likely blockage in AC drainage and/or AC draining into the car instead of beneath it
029. Clunking noise in changing gears
030. Trunk opens with remote and laser cut key
031. USB drive and aux port works
032. Squeaky Breaks
033. GFX installed correctly
034. Rims and tires in good condition (coming off carrier in bad condition/damaged)
035. Check for damage in the interior, basic procedure
036. Check the locking mechanism of both doors
037. Scraping sound for a second when backing up
038. SS emblem on trunk is loose
039. Loose interior windshield trim loose
040. The front GFX lip is not coming loose at the double sided tape
041. The front passenger brake rotors are not wearing with a dark colored groove
042. Hood latch handle on inside of cab doesn't retract properly (just hangs)
043. Scratches in seats
044. Oil cooler leaking
045. Once in every 10-15 times I unlock the car, the drivers side door is still locked, while
the locking knob on the door is in the "up" position
046. Faulty as gauge (improper readings)
047. Missing paint around the headlights
048. Bleed screw on clutch slave cylinder loose
049. Stickers on rockers peeling
050. Scratches on window pillars
051. Misaligned body & door panels as well as hood not centered properly (more to one side then the other)
052. Alignment of doors to dash interior the door interior seems to sag below the dash interior
053. Drivers side roof light( the one with the toggle switch) only works when its toggled over to the passenger side
054. Door sill decals peeling up
055. Paint swirls in driver/passenger door
056. Drive-shaft connection to the differential cracking when dropping the clutch
057. Tach Needle Sticking
058. Wiper motor wiring comes through bottom of the cowling-well in front of the driver. (The fix (decided upon between the dealer and myself) was to re-insulate the wires, cover the harness with a hard, slick plastic covering, drill a small hole in the bottom of the cowling-well (fill the hole with silicone) and use a cable tie down like the rest of the wiper harness uses to secure the harness to the floor of the cowling (the grommet will collapse downward with little force), far away from harm from the wiper arms.)
059. engine makes continuous clicking noise, starting roughly 5 seconds after engine starts
060. Door Sill plates wrinkled on outside edges (both sides)
061. Trunk gasket at bottom of rear window coming off
062. Uneven Dash (driver's side dash is lower then passenger's side)
063. Passenger/Driver's side Fender alignment off. (wheel cover well had to come off, then loosen fender bolt, and it pops right in place)
064. Key won't stay in folded position
065. Faulty Tail lights.

frost · 07-17-2009, 01:57 AM

I read the title and thought "oh no, not another camaro thread," but AKs info above is pretty funny.

smurfblu13 · 07-17-2009, 03:01 AM

I've driven one, I mean it is what it is. It's an American car so given the interior is nothing to write home about. Looks wise it's decent, however I think the whole look factor will decrease when they are a more common occurrence. I only got to drive the V6 as they did not have any SS's and even for the V6 is can get up and go. Again not anything to write home about but it was surprising for the V6 in my opinion.

MightyBobo · 07-17-2009, 06:25 AM

Reality check: plenty of dealerships tried (and still try) to mark the 370Z up. Its the exact same for the Camaro - look around, and you will find plenty of OTHER dealerships who arent marking up. My dealer called me back in October saying they would be selling them at MSRP no questions asked.

bigaudiofanat · 07-17-2009, 08:04 AM

I think there junk basically all gm cars are anymore, them and a lot of fords as well. We had so many problems back in 1996 with all 3 fords that we bought one right after we bought it. We went to the honda dealer bought a brand new civic and that thing ran like you would never believe, never any problems at all. That is why I stick to imports.

m4a1mustang · 07-17-2009, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

I think there junk basically all gm cars are anymore, them and a lot of fords as well. We had so many problems back in 1996 with all 3 fords that we bought one right after we bought it. We went to the honda dealer bought a brand new civic and that thing ran like you would never believe, never any problems at all. That is why I stick to imports.

New Fords are NICE. They have improved greatly. GM still in the crapper.

MightyBobo · 07-17-2009, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

I think there junk basically all gm cars are anymore, them and a lot of fords as well. We had so many problems back in 1996 with all 3 fords that we bought one right after we bought it. We went to the honda dealer bought a brand new civic and that thing ran like you would never believe, never any problems at all. That is why I stick to imports.

Sounds scientific, and you've done all your research.

I'm sold, imports 4 life.

IDZRVIT · 07-17-2009, 02:45 PM

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007. Mismatched paint on parts of the vehicle (including gas door).

Sounds like GM has stumbled upon a cost effective way of painting Camaro's - paint each exterior body part seperately before assembly using different vats of paint. Am I missing something here?

CrownR426 · 07-17-2009, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT

Sounds like GM has stumbled upon a cost effective way of painting Camaro's - paint each exterior body part seperately before assembly using different vats of paint. Am I missing something here?

Hmmm. Must've been drunk or high.

BanningZ · 07-17-2009, 05:31 PM

These are selling like hot cakes? The Chevy dealership near me still has the same two they had when they got a month or so ago.

Bushguts · 07-17-2009, 05:50 PM

the only place they look good is parked in front of a trailer home

Devil Z · 07-20-2009, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bushguts

the only place they look good is parked in front of a trailer home

LOL Says the guy driving a Civic

m4a1mustang · 07-20-2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Devil Z

LOL Says the guy driving a Civic

LMAO

07-17-2009, 06:25 AM	#6 (permalink)
MightyBobo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 8,465 Drives: No cars; only bikes Rep Power: 53	Reality check: plenty of dealerships tried (and still try) to mark the 370Z up. Its the exact same for the Camaro - look around, and you will find plenty of OTHER dealerships who arent marking up. My dealer called me back in October saying they would be selling them at MSRP no questions asked. __________________ I don't own a car anymore.

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