The new Camaros!

gatorfast · 07-16-2009, 03:53 PM

Seen a few in person. Really nice looking car, a real head turner. Wouldnt buy one though...they are huge!

cdawg410 · 07-16-2009, 04:46 PM

Now, i HAD to have this car when I first saw it. I saw the concept at the DC auto show and almost did bad things in my pants I wanted it so bad. Then the transformers movie came out and I actually started putting money away to buy it. In the meantime i purchased a 350z. When they started selling the Camaro I couldn't find one and I had the man itch (that itch that you get when new cars are flooding the market and your ride no longer excites you) I gave myself 2 days to find a Camaro and all the dealers said no, so I walked into Nissan and traded the 350 for the 370. Since then I have only seen one Camaro, while I was on vacation in Vegas. You know one of the bigger difference between the two cars? A 370 looks bada$$ no matter what trim you buy it in, the camaro I saw was a base model, it was not at all impressive. That is when I was sure I had made the right decision. A fully decked out Camaro is certainly a fine looking automobile but I Z is sexy anyway you slice it.

Lloydy · 07-16-2009, 05:15 PM

Nice to look at, but the interior is not nice - the retro speedo is ugly, that alone was enough put me off even thinking about buying one. This was before I'd seen the 370 of course.

Devil Z · 07-16-2009, 05:26 PM

All Hate aside, this car is gorgeous, drives gorgeous, and is crazy fast. I love everything about it except price, but the Z had almost the same markup of around $39k as apposed to Camaro $42k this is an SS2 as well. These prices are in Arizona, since the Z's launch the mark ups have dropped and you can find them around at $32k. i expect the same with the Camaro.

I still favor the Z because of weight, track, and it's potential, but the Camaro is a good step for Chevy. Hope to see a Monte Carlo SS remake of the 80's

tvfreakazoid · 07-31-2009, 02:54 AM

I've seen a couple of them on the road. About a week ago i went to a gm dealer and saw one up close. Damn they are huge as hell. I thought when I first heard about the new camo, that they were going to make it a little lighter and smaller. I guess not. It's looks cool, the retro int not my favorite. They should of made it smaller and lighter.

6MT · 07-16-2009, 05:34 PM

I've seen a couple at a dealership who deals with me for parts. Too much plastic for my liking. Nice design, though. Really retro!! (Kind of like the Challenger in a VW Beetle kind of way

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid

So has anyone stopped by the dealer to check out the new camaro's? I noticed that they are mark ups on those. What do you guys think of them?

zZSportZz · 07-16-2009, 06:36 PM

LOL...so you mean I couldn't even buy a manual SS Camaro atm cause they stopped making them due to gear box failure? Thats kinda funny.

theDreamer · 07-16-2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by zZSportZz

LOL...so you mean I couldn't even buy a manual SS Camaro atm cause they stopped making them due to gear box failure? Thats kinda funny.

Yes, they are currently stopping all shipments.

BanningZ · 07-16-2009, 06:54 PM

Seen em'.

To plasticy looking. Not as impressed as I was a few years ago.

SpawnAeroJohn · 07-16-2009, 07:06 PM

^x2

If I HAD to pick a domestic sports car. Id get the 2010 stang or the challenger. IMO the Camaro is done way over the top. Overkill.

On the other hand if anybody has seen the challengers interior youll know what I mean by plain as black coffee. Real dull interior.

Lone Wolf 75 · 07-16-2009, 07:30 PM

I was actually cross shopping the Camaro until I went to the local Chevy dealer. It went something like this:
Me: "So do you have any new Camaros on the lot?"
Chevy Salesperson: "Just the one we sold and is being picked up later tonight by the owner. It's an SS. You can look at it from the outside, but that's it."
Me: After looking at the car. "Cool. Are you getting anymore in anytime soon?"
CS: "Not that we know of for the next couple of months. If you want one, you gotta special order one."
Me: "So how does an interested buyer, like myself, get a chance to test drive one?"
CS: "Well, after you order it, financing is approved, and you sign the papers, you could take it out for a spin. Also, these are selling at three-thousand or so above MSRP, and are on an order only basis."
Me: "Ok, well I am not going to buy a vehicle without a test drive, you have any sales brochures?"
CS: "Nope, all out."
Me: "Ok thanks for your time, goodbye."

IMHO, Chevy's got a good thing going with these cars, but they are messing up the endgame in completing the sale with a lot of potential buyers. Sure the car looks great, but I would not buy one on looks alone. The car is pretty big too, so does it feel like a land yacht or a vintage or modern muscle car? I'll never know without a test drive.

Now, the die-hard Chevy and Camaro fans will probably eat these up and pay the premiums, as well as the-gotta-have-it people, but I'm betting that's a small fraction of the potential market for this car. I've already made my mind up that the 370Z is the car to beat in my mind and that door is closing quickly, as I will likely be buying one soon.

Zcott · 07-16-2009, 08:14 PM

Why is anyone surprised that GM is having problems with a first gen vehicle?
It's their MO. They make bad designs, and try to work them out in the assembly line rather than doing most of the work on the drawing table.
It's ridiculous that the Camaro was in development for as long as it was, and to still have major issues...

Looks... I still like it. The 68 Camaro with the folding lights is one of the sweetest looking cars every made. The new one captures a little of that, but as has been said... they made it too big. Somewhere along the line the "pony" part of pony car was lost in favor of Clydesdale.

I work with a guy that got the first Camaro delivered in DFW. It's a red SS and is pretty to look at and has a great V8 growl, but it only took me a few minutes to know I wouldn't buy one.

I detest GM's interior philosophy of cramming as much crap as possible into every nook and cranny as they can. Pontiac was the worst.

AK370Z · 07-16-2009, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lone Wolf 75

I was actually cross shopping the Camaro until I went to the local Chevy dealer. It went something like this:
Me: "So do you have any new Camaros on the lot?"
Chevy Salesperson: "Just the one we sold and is being picked up later tonight by the owner. It's an SS. You can look at it from the outside, but that's it."
Me: After looking at the car. "Cool. Are you getting anymore in anytime soon?"
CS: "Not that we know of for the next couple of months. If you want one, you gotta special order one."
Me: "So how does an interested buyer, like myself, get a chance to test drive one?"
CS: "Well, after you order it, financing is approved, and you sign the papers, you could take it out for a spin. Also, these are selling at three-thousand or so above MSRP, and are on an order only basis."
Me: "Ok, well I am not going to buy a vehicle without a test drive, you have any sales brochures?"
CS: "Nope, all out."
Me: "Ok thanks for your time, goodbye."

IMHO, Chevy's got a good thing going with these cars, but they are messing up the endgame in completing the sale with a lot of potential buyers. Sure the car looks great, but I would not buy one on looks alone. The car is pretty big too, so does it feel like a land yacht or a vintage or modern muscle car? I'll never know without a test drive.

Now, the die-hard Chevy and Camaro fans will probably eat these up and pay the premiums, as well as the-gotta-have-it people, but I'm betting that's a small fraction of the potential market for this car. I've already made my mind up that the 370Z is the car to beat in my mind and that door is closing quickly, as I will likely be buying one soon.

I think GM lost some good sales due to a. dealers attitude toward this car. b. GM not able to deliver this car, lets say, at least an year earlier. Also, their financial stand point isn't helping.

I would still drive one though (Black SS model)

One of my close friend is this close ---> ll to giving up on the camaro. Way too much run around by the dealer, no test drive, extended waiting time etc. I told him to go test drive a 370Z [sorry, I don't let anyone drive (or test drive) my car. You can call me selfish!]

2theextreme · 07-16-2009, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK370Z

I told him to go test drive a 370Z [sorry, I don't let anyone drive (or test drive) my car. You can call me selfish!]

I wouldn't call ya selfish....I'd call ya smart!

IDZRVIT · 07-16-2009, 08:24 PM

Reality check: Camaros are selling like hot cakes. The Oshawa plant can barely keep up with the orders. So, how are the Z's selling? GM has bragging rights in my opinion.

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tvfreakazoid A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: kommie kali Posts: 1,238 Drives: 2015 Audi S5; 6spd. Rep Power: 10325	I've seen a couple of them on the road. About a week ago i went to a gm dealer and saw one up close. Damn they are huge as hell. I thought when I first heard about the new camo, that they were going to make it a little lighter and smaller. I guess not. It's looks cool, the retro int not my favorite. They should of made it smaller and lighter. __________________ Mudders milk

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Zcott Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: D/FW, Texas Posts: 89 Drives: 09 370Z Sport PG M6 Rep Power: 16	Why is anyone surprised that GM is having problems with a first gen vehicle? It's their MO. They make bad designs, and try to work them out in the assembly line rather than doing most of the work on the drawing table. It's ridiculous that the Camaro was in development for as long as it was, and to still have major issues... Looks... I still like it. The 68 Camaro with the folding lights is one of the sweetest looking cars every made. The new one captures a little of that, but as has been said... they made it too big. Somewhere along the line the "pony" part of pony car was lost in favor of Clydesdale. I work with a guy that got the first Camaro delivered in DFW. It's a red SS and is pretty to look at and has a great V8 growl, but it only took me a few minutes to know I wouldn't buy one. I detest GM's interior philosophy of cramming as much crap as possible into every nook and cranny as they can. Pontiac was the worst.