When a Lamborghini meets a GTR
 

Saw this on the local news

Two dead after Lamborghini crash in Lakeland | TBO.com

Ouch

http://www2.tbo.com/mgmedia/image/0/...0/lamborghini/

Holy sh*t! The lambo driver drunk or something?! I guess the GTR is the safer car though, everyone in the lambo died. Very unfortunate.

:eek2: How does that even happen?!?! NO wheels left....wow

Makes you wonder how the people in the lambo died, I mean the shell of the cab is relatively intact? I wonder how fast they were going. Very sad nonetheless

:(:(

Does anybody know the names of the people that were killed? I really hope that's not Robert Himler and his 1000 hp Lambo...


*ok nvm, read the article.. RIP

24yr old
woman and man
lambo

obviously control substances or cell phone use was/were involved, and speeding most likely as well.
But to the GT-R driver that median looks pretty wide, and assuming the speed is anywhere around 60-80, the lambo must have been approaching from a shallow angle. Meaning it would have been at least 3-4 seconds before impact. How do you not see a lime green POS flying across the median at you for that long and at least swerve a little?

RIP to the Lambo drivers
and speedy recovery for the gentleman in the GTR

that lime green actually blends in with the grass pretty well, if you look at the pic of the lambo.

Sam (owner of the Lambo) was very active in our local car community and was very well liked. He would often bring multiple cars to the monthly Cars & Coffee meets and other big events, allowing his friends to drive the cars. He just picked up the Murci about a month ago, too :( RIP

According to friends of the deceased speed was not the issue. However, I want to see two cars look like that after an impact at the speed limit...

Apparently (according to the friend) It was a supercar caravan. The driver spun out (lost control) trying to cross the median and was hit by the Nissan. The nissan driver was apparently friends with the lambo driver.

But seriously, none of this adds up. That GTR must have been speeding pretty hard or vice versa. Cars do not look like that after impacting at 60mph...

Sucks regardless though. Hate to see people go out like that. Especially car enthusiasts.

That will make Jalopnik. Lambo's just don't all the sudden cross a median by their own devices....She was 24.

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So do small mammalians that cause terror to bumpers at night yet most people can still avoid them by swerving, and do so almost instinctively. I'm having a hard time believing he didnt see it.

I was getting at that. Statistics don't lie. Young + female is not a good bet when considering "accident" rates.
Moral of the story is, don't let anyone drive your car EVER. Unless they are active enthusiast who will respect a vehicle regardless of make/model do not let them behind the wheel of your car, ESPECIALLY if that car is a supercar. You are asking for trouble

Exactly what I was thinking. This cannot be a "low-speed" crash.

it is very sad indeed! but the truth is that it seems nearly iompossible to have that type of damage from a 60mph crash, and about the 120mph because it was a head on crash.. meaning 60mph+60mph = 120mph its not true if both car are doing 60mph and crash head on the impact stays the same 60mph its like hitting a wall or something, this myth was busted in mythbusters

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what was wrong with the post? why was it removed?

That is no head on crash at 60mph. Not even close. I mean come on how often do a GTR and Murci not only pass each other but hit head on.... Also the windshield on the lambo is blown out, maybe from lack of seatbelts being worn. Did the driver and passenger get ejected?

If you read the article it clearly states that everyone was wearing seatbelts. It is a very weird crash indeed.

The Lambo had the air bags open if you look in the picture. Air bags can only do so much so they must have really been moving. The shell actually looks to be fairly intact, it's not crumpled as the carbon fiber tub seems to have held up. However internal trauma can happen when you stop that hard and that fast that takes you out even if your belted in. May not have any visible external injuries, but bleeds out internally.

dammmm :eek: That lambo is a crushed can. :icon17:

I'm very sorry to see what happened and sorry people lost their lives

And my Heart and prayers goes out to the Families and friends affected.

This is a story that does not add up but the result is certainly two lost lives. If they knew one another and were in the same club, why would they be going in opposite directions. It does not matter any more.

May peace come to all involved.

Noticed in the article that the lady was driving. Maybe she lost control of it?

If she wasn't an experienced driver of such a powerful car it probably wouldn't take much to loose control...

Here is a quote from the Lamborghini owner's friend:

Nick Nicou
To everyone commenting on this story. I was very good friends with both of the people who were lost in this accident and have been in touch with witness to the accident. All accusations you have made have bee false. Speed was not the issue, racing was not the issues. The car lost control around a corner due to bad judgement and spun out. It is common thing. It was a supercar caravan. Please think before you speak. The passenger was actually the owner of the car. He was a good person and will be missed. The driver has completed numerous driving and competitive racing courses and was more than capeable of handling the vehicle. Bad timing. That's all it was. Hope this helps anyone concerned.
Yesterday at 11:08am

Nick Nicou
I would also like to add that the owner and driver of the Nissan GTR was also a friend of the victims. Please pray for him.
Yesterday at 11:21am

Bottom line people lost lives over here, no point in fault finding. My sympathy goes to the family and friends of the dearly departed. My prayers for the injured for their speedy recovery. Only God knows what happened over here. Drive Safely everyone.

Sorry, but at normal highway speeds the Lambo is not going to suddenly go out of control on perfectly flat and straight pavement..... Unless the driver does something stupid.

I have to agree. If a Honda civic can drive down the same road, a Lamborghini should be able to. Unless they were testing the car.

Not saying anything is wrong with that. Hell if I owned that car is probably gun it a lot however you'd need to get used to the power!

Read above, he says lost control around a corner.

http://www2.tbo.com/mgmedia/image/0/...-nissan-wreck/

Does anyone else spot the very very long black skid marks behind the GTR coming from the center median? So the Lambo was the one that crossed it because of loss of control right? The Murci is AWD IIRC and with TC off it seems very feasible a car of that power should have no problem breaking the wheels loose. But those are some long long skids, had to be doing pretty good. And the Road also looks straight, not really curved.

They even stated there was debris scattered almost 1000' away. That is a serious impact man.

Kinda reminds me of the vid of the 350z. Broke the tires loose which caused it to bring the rear end out at HWY speeds. But a Murci I am sure can roll the tires over at a much higher speed.

Uh yeah debris flew 1000 feet. It was a "slow speed" crash. ...Not

To lose control of AWD car with stability control you have to be moving very fast. Looks like car jumped and planted after intial contact. Probably snapped their backs.

While sad I suspect it was classic example of someone driving far beyond their capability on the street.

Not buying that, a Lambo should be able to make any normal major highway turn at 100 or so mph. Maybe she got it hot and lifted which we all know is the worst thing to do, then her steering went light, she over compensated, caught traction again and shot across the median. Be it a car or bike, it does what you tell it to do. Guess we will not know, but it's sad they died.

Story doesn't add up, would like to know more information.

So contrary to all the statement the passenger of the GTR states the lambo was indeed traveling fast.
http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news...itical_af.html

A passenger in the Nissan, Tan P. Phan, 22, of Pinellas Park, was treated at the hospital and released.

"Fast. That's all I can say because once I saw the Lamborghini in a flash we were in a crash," he said.

He said about a half dozen sports car fans were driving on the road when the accident happened.

University Boulevard is a four-lane divided roadway that was completed last year and will provide access to Florida Polytechnic.

Phan said the group had gone to the road after getting together for a pre-Super Bowl party.

"No, we weren't racing. We were just cruising. And this car came from the opposite side,” Phan said. “Don't know what they were doing or what happened. All I know was I saw the Lamborghini went over the middle median. In the blink of an eye we got into an accident."

The cars were doing runs up and down the street, but were not racing each other. Car was doing around 150...driver lifted and the rear end got loose. She lost control, crossed the median, and hit the GTR. The driver was killed from blunt force trauma. The passenger (owner) was thrown out of the car and killed. Still a sad story. There was a memorial for them at Cars & Coffee on Saturday.

150MPH on public roads???
My sympathy just went to about 0

I'm sorry Ryan that you know them, but 150 is meant for a dragstrip

After reading through the story and this thread I figured there was more to the story. Its still sad and I for one still have sympathy because each and everyone of us has done something stupid in the past and got away with it. RIP peace and to the folks in the GTR my heart really goes out to them. Having to deal with this because of a stupid mistake is sad. There is no good to a story like this unless people reading it and watching it learn from it. Take it to the track to open up your car.

thanks for the clear up, my condolences to both families.

did you ever get the viper fixed up? best of luck!

It's in the works...it's been a long journey. The last 8 months, my car only ran for 2 weeks.