Opinions on a New York City Daily Driver

UNKNOWN_370 · 02-08-2013, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Econ

I understand what NYC car ownership is like, however I am using this car mainly pleasure purposes. The building I reside has its own garage and I commute via the subway everyday. The reason for wanting a car is for those trips (which I make nearly every weekend) out to long island or to any of the neighboring cities which nearly all of my friends live (Boston, Stamford, Faifield, etc..). I just like having a car on hand to be able to get in and go.

Regardles, I am still in a city environment and would like a little car. Fun fact: many parking garages around here charge 1/2 for Fiat's or Smart Cars.

If your car is for going out of state? Then why worried about size? And thats not what you said in the beiginning.

m4a1mustang · 02-08-2013, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

Too late, but they just started building the Fiesta ST in Europe, will be here soon.

Yeah but the Abarth is still way more chic.

UNKNOWN_370 · 02-08-2013, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Yeah but the Abarth is still way more chic.

lol... Ur serious???

J lo sold u huh...

m4a1mustang · 02-08-2013, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

lol... Ur serious???

Haters gon hate... but they know I'm fabulous.

m4a1mustang · 02-08-2013, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

lol... Ur serious???

J lo sold u huh...

J Lo didn't drive the Abarth in the commercial.

Also,

UNKNOWN_370 · 02-08-2013, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

J Lo didn't drive the Abarth in the commercial.

Also,

hahahaa.. but she put the name on it. I don't hate on the Abarth, but Chic? Really? That's subliminal advertising that caught you there. lol.

Shyt at least the abarf is a turbo. lol

m4a1mustang · 02-08-2013, 02:52 PM

It is chic bro! Very stylish.

Shamu · 02-09-2013, 10:35 AM

I test drove both cars extensively. A couple times in different environments. To me the Mini Cooper S is way more practical and build quality is much much better. Mini also is much bigger inside. Granted Mini coupe doesn't have back seats but Mini is wider and front leg room is better. Abarth is very crowded inside to point if you are bigger person your up against door panel on one side and rubbing your passenger on other. guess thats cool if you are out with hot looking chic but if you need to give a Bro a ride its less cool. Abarths shifter is awful and feels cheap and vague. Abrths doors have lightweight tin feel when you close them as opposed to german engineered Mini doors.

Also the Abarth has no low end torque. You have to rev the crap out of the car to get it moving. Unlike the Mini which has nice thick power band. In city driving good torque is a must if you want to easily squirt around situations. In Abarth you will need more room to run at things as its really only happy over 3200 rpm while mini has decent amount of grunt from 2000 on up. While on paper the Abarth might be close to Mini in acceleration the way two cars get there is much differnt. And I can say without a doubt Mini will do faster sprint consistently. abarth takes more work to move fast.

And to me Fiat 500 styling makes it look like a clown car. No escaping the fact it's tall and short. Handling wise the fiat feels tippy to me. Have to admit Fiats handling surprised me but it still feels more like a small city car that's been hotrodded rather than well sorted and capable chassis and suspension of the mini. fiat feels short when you go over bumps though. still can't tune out that short wheelbase.

I liked Mini Dealers better too. Went to 3 mini dealers and 2 fiat dealers. Fiat dealers didn't know much about the cars they sold and it was typical dealer customer feeling. Mini dealers knew their product well and one I went to is associated with BMW dealer next store and quality approach was very nice.

This is what ended up in my driveway

UNKNOWN_370 · 02-09-2013, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Shamu

I test drove both cars extensively. A couple times in different environments. To me the Mini Cooper S is way more practical and build quality is much much better. Mini also is much bigger inside. Granted Mini coupe doesn't have back seats but Mini is wider and front leg room is better. Abarth is very crowded inside to point if you are bigger person your up against door panel on one side and rubbing your passenger on other. guess thats cool if you are out with hot looking chic but if you need to give a Bro a ride its less cool. Abarths shifter is awful and feels cheap and vague. Abrths doors have lightweight tin feel when you close them as opposed to german engineered Mini doors.

Also the Abarth has no low end torque. You have to rev the crap out of the car to get it moving. Unlike the Mini which has nice thick power band. In city driving good torque is a must if you want to easily squirt around situations. In Abarth you will need more room to run at things as its really only happy over 3200 rpm while mini has decent amount of grunt from 2000 on up. While on paper the Abarth might be close to Mini in acceleration the way two cars get there is much differnt. And I can say without a doubt Mini will do faster sprint consistently. abarth takes more work to move fast.

And to me Fiat 500 styling makes it look like a clown car. No escaping the fact it's tall and short. Handling wise the fiat feels tippy to me. Have to admit Fiats handling surprised me but it still feels more like a small city car that's been hotrodded rather than well sorted and capable chassis and suspension of the mini. fiat feels short when you go over bumps though. still can't tune out that short wheelbase.

I liked Mini Dealers better too. Went to 3 mini dealers and 2 fiat dealers. Fiat dealers didn't know much about the cars they sold and it was typical dealer customer feeling. Mini dealers knew their product well and one I went to is associated with BMW dealer next store and quality approach was very nice.

This is what ended up in my driveway

I haven't test driven them but I've sat inside them at the state fair auto show and the dallas auto show.

The mini is way more manly and respectable as well.

Heres a new york classic ride.

And the theme music to go with this ride.

EPMD - Strictly Business - YouTube

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Shamu A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 1,059 Drives: 370Z Racecar Rep Power: 19	I test drove both cars extensively. A couple times in different environments. To me the Mini Cooper S is way more practical and build quality is much much better. Mini also is much bigger inside. Granted Mini coupe doesn't have back seats but Mini is wider and front leg room is better. Abarth is very crowded inside to point if you are bigger person your up against door panel on one side and rubbing your passenger on other. guess thats cool if you are out with hot looking chic but if you need to give a Bro a ride its less cool. Abarths shifter is awful and feels cheap and vague. Abrths doors have lightweight tin feel when you close them as opposed to german engineered Mini doors. Also the Abarth has no low end torque. You have to rev the crap out of the car to get it moving. Unlike the Mini which has nice thick power band. In city driving good torque is a must if you want to easily squirt around situations. In Abarth you will need more room to run at things as its really only happy over 3200 rpm while mini has decent amount of grunt from 2000 on up. While on paper the Abarth might be close to Mini in acceleration the way two cars get there is much differnt. And I can say without a doubt Mini will do faster sprint consistently. abarth takes more work to move fast. And to me Fiat 500 styling makes it look like a clown car. No escaping the fact it's tall and short. Handling wise the fiat feels tippy to me. Have to admit Fiats handling surprised me but it still feels more like a small city car that's been hotrodded rather than well sorted and capable chassis and suspension of the mini. fiat feels short when you go over bumps though. still can't tune out that short wheelbase. I liked Mini Dealers better too. Went to 3 mini dealers and 2 fiat dealers. Fiat dealers didn't know much about the cars they sold and it was typical dealer customer feeling. Mini dealers knew their product well and one I went to is associated with BMW dealer next store and quality approach was very nice. This is what ended up in my driveway UNKNOWN_370 likes this. __________________ Grant Last edited by Shamu; 02-09-2013 at 11:08 AM.

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