Originally Posted by Shamu Do yourself a favor. Go find an old 350z with say 150,000 miles on it and compare it to Porsche with same age and mileage. Just
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Not everyone is as well versed in mechanical up keeping and will have to rely on the dealers to service them. I can guarantee that some kid at Mister lube will screw something up on a Boxster's air filter change but unlike to do so on virtually any other car. That being the case, no one would be comfortable bringing a Boxster there unless they are a masochist so there are up level costs involved. For example using you're $250 oil change for a Boxster at a Porsche dealer will be $100 at a Nissan's for a Z everything being equal with the exception of the time required due to additional complications. We all know the Boxster IS a better car than the ZR in many ways. But is it a 1/3 to 1/2 better at the initial purchase? Most of us will probably say no. That said, is the Boxster 1 1/2 times better when it comes to an oil change? Most of us will definitely say no. There are deficiencies in all cars. The Boxster with "throw away motors", the 350Z with window motors and camber issues, the 370Z with oil temp, fuel starvation, paint and brake cooling issues, the 458 with car burning to the ground issue . Spending $5000 in upkeep may be is justifiable on a Porsche but may not be so in a Z. Over engineering is not always real world better. Torx is better than traditional phillips head but not applicable for all situations. All said, "Porsches aren't for everyone", neither is Ferraris aren't for everyone nor Austin Martins aren't for everyone, on and on. Unless we can comfortably afford the difference, the choice can be more difficult to bare and we have to justify it. Obviously the axiom, you have to pay to play applies. Real car guys knows that better than anyone.
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For a car with much better engineering and materials, I don't see how you can't acknowledge that normally simple maintenance procedures seem excessively complex in this car. That is part of the engineering design, and more specifically, the part where it falls a little short imo. I don't remember anyone saying that because of this, the Porsche has inferior paint or interior or power or insert-any-random-component-here. Quote:
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I'm not a mechanic and I don't play one on TV, but... I was shopping Cayman and Boxsters used before i purchased the Z. They are absolutely wonderful to drive and can make very good DDs too.
I did some research and lurked on Cayman/Boxster forums a bit as well. They are not bullet proof,and with all respects to Ferdinand, have had some costly design issues that lingered through several model years like the IMS bearing issues. Shop rates at the Porsche stores are in the $125-$180/hr range for labor, so for me it didn't make sense because the difference in performance is such that I'd need driving classes to realize it. I'd never say it's not worth it to someone else, because only they can make that decision, and both are performance bargains in their own right. |
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