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Old 02-27-2013, 04:01 AM   #151 (permalink)
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lol, wow this turned ugly real quick...you wanna talk american reliability....1st nice car my parents had an early 90's lincoln continental they bought brand new off the lot fully loaded with all the bells and whistles, 2nd week they had it they had electrical issues with it took it into the shop and it literally caught on fire while in the shop...second vehicle my parents bought a 95 or 96 dodge RAM when they first redesigned it, went in multiple times because the brakes kept failing on it and had to be bought back by dodge under lemon law, third car my parents bought was a plymouth and i forget the model cause not even a month after they had it they pulled over to the side of the road because it was overheating and it also caught on fire, fifth car a brand new 98 mercury mystique with the v6, lasted quite a while until the transmission decided it didnt want to work anymore and one little knick in the paint on the roof turned into a huge rust spot, 6th car my parents owned a 2004 dodge stratus transmission started leaking all on its own...so tell me where is the reliability of american made cars in all this? face it dude all cars have problems whether they be domestic or imported, you just happened to have gotten a bad one out of the batch and yet you insist on bagging on all imports.
My G20 was a bad one, this 370Z was a bad one, how many bad one's do you think I need to get before I get smart? I think two, being every single import I have owned, should be enough, yeah? I have owned multiple American sports and muscle cars and only one of them was a problem child. The rest were great. Also, that was then, this is now. It's 2013. What happened back in 2004 is ancient history in the auto industry.

Nissan seems to think this is normal, so whether it is or not, that's how the claims will be handled, so if it's not the car taking a dump, it's the service behind it, which is really the same thing, considering that all mechanical items can be flawed as you have noted above.
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I am not sure what the 5.0 or Circle jerkers have anything to do with your brakes? If you just want to argue and complain, just say so.
I think I already stated that I was pissed and wanted to complain and when this was fixed I'd be find for a month or so until my car broke or had an issue again.

Noone has anything to do with my car being a POS but Nissan, but people who stick up for the car and say "You're the problem" and then show me pictures of cracked rotors clearly wouldn't last a day in my car without breaking some fragile something.
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My G20 was a bad one, this 370Z was a bad one, how many bad one's do you think I need to get before I get smart? I think two, being every single import I have owned, should be enough, yeah? I have owned multiple American sports and muscle cars and only one of them was a problem child. The rest were great. Also, that was then, this is now. It's 2013. What happened back in 2004 is ancient history in the auto industry.

Nissan seems to think this is normal, so whether it is or not, that's how the claims will be handled, so if it's not the car taking a dump, it's the service behind it, which is really the same thing, considering that all mechanical items can be flawed as you have noted above.
lol, oh you want something a little more recent then huh? how about my moms current car, a 2010 chevy malibu which had to be taken in 2 or 3 times cause they refused to believe that her power steering unit was trying to kill her by randomly jerking the steering wheel away from her and the dealership was going to try and charge her for even though the vast majority of the electric power steering units in those cars were under a recall. face it dude i can go round and round with you on this, i will agree that yes there are some great american cars that are really reliable but lumping in all imports as being cheap junk as you seem to imply is fairly closed minded of you on your part. im sorry that you are having problems with your z, but i think it would be more constructive for you to aim all your frustration and anger towards imports and nissan in general at the nissan dealership/nissan corporate
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lol, oh you want something a little more recent then huh? how about my moms current car, a 2010 chevy malibu which had to be taken in 2 or 3 times cause they refused to believe that her power steering unit was trying to kill her by randomly jerking the steering wheel away from her and the dealership was going to try and charge her for even though the vast majority of the electric power steering units in those cars were under a recall. face it dude i can go round and round with you on this, i will agree that yes there are some great american cars that are really reliable but lumping in all imports as being cheap junk as you seem to imply is fairly closed minded of you on your part. im sorry that you are having problems with your z, but i think it would be more constructive for you to aim all your frustration and anger towards imports and nissan in general at the nissan dealership/nissan corporate
Okay, what Japanese import sports car exists in America in the $30-40K price-range that is in current production?

Subaru is it other than the 370Z, am I wrong? Scoobies just don't appeal to me. Not their fault, but they are Lancer's with tarted up drivelines and I am not going to pay that much for one.

I've now owned two Nissan/Infiniti products and they are well made using cheap materials. That is my opinion of them. Easily cracked windshields. Warping rotors. Rubber that rots under the hood, etc. The construction on them is GREAT! and I love the workmanship, they just need to use better material. The are using crap materials and doing premium work, while American cars have crap workmanship and premium materials. Just my experience and generalization about them.

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I think I already stated that I was pissed and wanted to complain and when this was fixed I'd be find for a month or so until my car broke or had an issue again.

Noone has anything to do with my car being a POS but Nissan, but people who stick up for the car and say "You're the problem" and then show me pictures of cracked rotors clearly wouldn't last a day in my car without breaking some fragile something.
My car's been towed twice due to fuel stravation and the steering lock, I also had a gas tank replaced at 10K miles. I would be the first to say the car is not bulletproof and I hate Nissan Corp as much as you as getting warranty work with them is a nightmare. At the same time, you are calling the car fragile because you have a vibration from your brakes and got into an accident? If you want attention, just post as a girl and you will get the same thing.

MX-5 Miata had a pretty good run, they did what 23 years? Their VIN starts with a J....

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My car's been towed twice due to fuel stravation and the steering lock, I also had a gas tank replaced at 10K miles. I would be the first to say the car is not bulletproof and I hate Nissan Corp as much as you as getting warranty work with them is a nightmare. At the same time, you are calling the car fragile because you have a vibration from your brakes and got into an accident? If you want attention, just post as a girl and you will get the same thing.

MX-5 Miata had a pretty good run, they did what 23 years? Their VIN starts with a J....
Actually I think the car held up DAMN WELL! in the accident I was in, and am proud of how well it was engineered. My issue is with the quality of the material used regarding "hard parts" like brake rotors, windshields, body panels, etc.

It reeks of "cheap" but the price-tag doesn't reflect it. There are all kinds of steels that can be used for things, I refuse to believe that Nissan is using a quality alloy for a brake rotor. I realize it is cast iron, but it warps like pot metal.

Miata is a damn solid car, but it's not in the same league as the Z, although I have considered one. The doors...oh god...those doors...those doors are the reason you see cops on TV using car-doors as cover from rifle fire.
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Okay, what Japanese import sports car exists in America in the $30-40K price-range that is in current production?

Subaru is it other than the 370Z, am I wrong? Scoobies just don't appeal to me. Not their fault, but they are Lancer's with tarted up drivelines and I am not going to pay that much for one.

I've now owned two Nissan/Infiniti products and they are well made using cheap materials. That is my opinion of them. Easily cracked windshields. Warping rotors. Rubber that rots under the hood, etc. The construction on them is GREAT! and I love the workmanship, they just need to use better material. The are using crap materials and doing premium work, while American cars have crap workmanship and premium materials. Just my experience and generalization about them.
Subaru's are very much the same in terms of crap material and quality construction anyways.
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Subaru's are very much the same in terms of crap material and quality construction anyways.
I remember thinking that the Lancer's when I saw them in parking lots. They didn't seem to wear well. Go look at a C5 corvette or a 2005 Mustang GT that hasn't been run into a pole or something, and unless it's dirty, it typically looks new. The 350Z really isn't that bad in that regard until you look inside and see all the dented plastic. At least, that's what I noticed when I rode in one back in 2010, seems like it was worse interior than my Trans Am, and certainly rattled more. I have no experience with Mitsubishi or Subaru, though.

STi is a $20K car with a tarted up driveline, same as EVO, though, so I don't doubt that they have serious issues since all of the money is in the driveline.
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there are lemons and issues with every manufacturer. My oil pressure light started coming on on my 13 Mustang GT when stopped with the car in Drive, We bought a new 97 Camaro Z28 and 4 of the spark plugs fouled out on the 40 mile drive home,, bought a new trialblazer that had an antifreeze leak, had a 350z that had to have the engine and transmission replaced under warranty.

Stuff happens. Just spring for some quality rotors and you should be fine. To me, the money spent on the rotors would be worth a lot less than the time ******* around with the dealership.

If you want it fixed right, do it yourself.
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I remember thinking that the Lancer's when I saw them in parking lots. They didn't seem to wear well. Go look at a C5 corvette or a 2005 Mustang GT that hasn't been run into a pole or something, and unless it's dirty, it typically looks new. The 350Z really isn't that bad in that regard until you look inside and see all the dented plastic. At least, that's what I noticed when I rode in one back in 2010, seems like it was worse interior than my Trans Am, and certainly rattled more. I have no experience with Mitsubishi or Subaru, though.

STi is a $20K car with a tarted up driveline, same as EVO, though, so I don't doubt that they have serious issues since all of the money is in the driveline.
My subaru was fine (and I think most are)...it's more of a sound/feel issue with them.

The WRX runs closer to 25K (usually under), so it gets away with it in my mind...


At the end of the day, it's very expensive to build cars in Japan, and frankly Japan itself is poorly situated for the JIT manufacturing they love.

There's a reason Honda/Nissan/etc are building plants in the US--costs are much lower when you are located close to your supply chain and don't have to ship your product across the ocean. Because of this you'll either see a premium on Japan-built cars (like with the S2000), or you'll see corners cut somewhere.
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My subaru was fine (and I think most are)...it's more of a sound/feel issue with them.

The WRX runs closer to 25K (usually under), so it gets away with it in my mind...


At the end of the day, it's very expensive to build cars in Japan, and frankly Japan itself is poorly situated for the JIT manufacturing they love.

There's a reason Honda/Nissan/etc are building plants in the US--costs are much lower when you are located close to your supply chain and don't have to ship your product across the ocean. Because of this you'll either see a premium on Japan-built cars (like with the S2000), or you'll see corners cut somewhere.
I'd rather pay for it, or not have it at all. Sell me the good ****, or don't pretend you have it.

Anyway, fool me once...not again.

Rotors were turned, dealership admitted they were warped and that the pads showed no signs of abuse. Car brakes smoothly again, for now. I will invest in good rotors and pads for the next time this happens.

At least my car has some damn nice tires, now. I love the PSS!
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I'd rather pay for it, or not have it at all. Sell me the good ****, or don't pretend you have it.

Anyway, fool me once...not again.

Rotors were turned, dealership admitted they were warped and that the pads showed no signs of abuse. Car brakes smoothly again, for now. I will invest in good rotors and pads for the next time this happens.

At least my car has some damn nice tires, now. I love the PSS!
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I'd rather pay for it, or not have it at all. Sell me the good ****, or don't pretend you have it.

Anyway, fool me once...not again.

Rotors were turned, dealership admitted they were warped and that the pads showed no signs of abuse. Car brakes smoothly again, for now. I will invest in good rotors and pads for the next time this happens.

At least my car has some damn nice tires, now. I love the PSS!
I'm with you, but we're in the minority.

Enjoy the Z, and hopefully it will treat you well going forward.
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Look, sooner or later they are going to run out of rotor. I was informed I have .006" more to work with before it is out of spec. I HIGHLY doubt they are going to give me a free set of rotors.

Maybe a 370Z is some sort of life achievement or some other special thing for you, but for me, it's just another car (For me, my Z06 was the Chimera, I caught it, and moved on in a year). That doesn't mean, however, that I want to feel brake judder every time I enter a corner or slow to a stop.

What it does mean is that I'm not going to just randomly fork over $$$ for crap for the car that it shouldn't NEED, when I can go to the dealership and have them turn the rotors under warranty because they acknowledge that their product doesn't meet minimal expectations.

I'm sorry if it frustrates you, but it frustrates me a helluva lot more, I'm betting.
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