Why is Nissan so uptight?

Snakes709 · 01-13-2013, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

He's in Canadia, lol (fellow Canadian)

I assume he's importing it there considering their laws are more relaxed

We've got 10 year to go to import them into the states...

seriously? Its been awhile since i read up on the laws here but iirc the car has to be 15 years old before it can be imported here. Which allows the R34 GTT to be imported since production started in 98, but the GTR started in 99 so we have another year to wait.

ImportConvert · 01-13-2013, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Lol, kinda

At the same time, they DON'T need you to buy a GTR... Sorry, we all want money, but they DGAF about who's money...

Also, they don't want people to finance the GTR, go in with $110 cash, maybe you'll take it

Financing is where the money is.

Japanjay · 01-13-2013, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakes709

seriously? Its been awhile since i read up on the laws here but iirc the car has to be 15 years old before it can be imported here. Which allows the R34 GTT to be imported since production started in 98, but the GTR started in 99 so we have another year to wait.

You are correct, and 25 years for the USA, hence why he stated we have ten more years to go.

redline727 · 01-13-2013, 10:55 PM

dealerships don't prefer cash sales. Less money on the backend to be made i.e. they make money off your interest rate. Plus the chances of closing on warranty products/maintenance/road hazard etc. all goes down with cash buyers. Just bc you sign a paper saying you got 5.9% interest the bank may have said 4.7% to the dealer every point the dealer up sells they get paid on from the bank. Unless its one of those nationally advertised low rates on brand new car. Typically a cash deal goes so quickly and will get a dropped price bc they realize you have money and will do the sale as quick as possible just to move a unit and hopes of making money off of you in the future in the service department if they make you a customer.

Zat_Zuma · 01-13-2013, 11:35 PM

I *****.

Snakes709 · 01-14-2013, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Zat_Zuma

I just think of all the money you have wasted on high performance vehicles and the way you abuse them and I feel sorry for your family because I'm sure you had the money to OWN a house by now.

I'm going to call it as I see it and tell you to grow up and start thinking more of your family needs rather than your wants.

Sad part it will probably take 10 years before you understand what I'm trying to tell you and realize that I'm trying to help you.

Not that i have to defend myself to you but my family doesnt need anything. I caught my gf cheating, kicked her out so im 100% on my own up here. My mother and sisters are back in Halifax. I have no intentions of starting a family of my own. Therefor i dont plan on buying a house at the moment. Whats the point in buying a house when its just myself and im never home? I spent maybe 4 months home last year. With my new job ill be away just as much, if not more then i was with the army. So whats the point?

RoshDawg · 01-14-2013, 12:46 AM

Hey what about the new corvette? Maybe if you trade in your evo you can get the '13 gtr and use it as a track and dd car, since the gtr is definitely dd'able. Good luck with whatever you chose!

shadoquad · 01-14-2013, 01:02 AM

The GTR doesn't drop in value enough. I guess it's in high demand.

I wouldn't waste time on the Viper. If you're facing Canadian winters, I agree that AWD is the way to go. Maybe you can find one used in decent condition and with low miles. The older Viper, iirc, doesn't have electronic aids like traction control or ABS. Not something I'd want to be stuck in during a surprise snowfall. I could be wrong about that, but I thought I heard that from a Viper owner.

But if you're seriously considering Viper, used ZR1 Corvettes go for 90-some.

Shamu · 01-14-2013, 02:13 AM

I haven't paid over invoice on a car for past 5 years and haven't paid more than 2.5% interest on any amount financed. My last purchase, a BMW product, was less than 1%. But then I own my home, have had steady job for over 10 years. Doesn't sound like you have a firm job and credit managers want to see some history. There is a lot more margin in viper so they can hedge some of the credit risk with increased profit they make. Japan made super car isn't going to carry same margin.

Doesn't sound like you have much credit history and not many assets. A well managed credit organization will look at risk of an applicant and assess interest rate that hedges risk. given buy rate for large institutions is nearly 0% they must think you're a risk to hike interest that high.

Don't forget as you start making more money taxes will start to hit you harder
. $150k a year isn't really that much if your considering a luxury performance car.

You'll lose half of your $50k just in depreciation and interest first couple years by purchasing one of those cars new.

Snakes709 · 01-14-2013, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RoshDawg

Hey what about the new corvette? Maybe if you trade in your evo you can get the '13 gtr and use it as a track and dd car, since the gtr is definitely dd'able. Good luck with whatever you chose!

I never really liked the corvettes. They are just to plain and to common. Its only a matter of time before everyone and their grand mother has one of the new ones.

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

The GTR doesn't drop in value enough. I guess it's in high demand.

I wouldn't waste time on the Viper. If you're facing Canadian winters, I agree that AWD is the way to go. Maybe you can find one used in decent condition and with low miles. The older Viper, iirc, doesn't have electronic aids like traction control or ABS. Not something I'd want to be stuck in during a surprise snowfall. I could be wrong about that, but I thought I heard that from a Viper owner.

But if you're seriously considering Viper, used ZR1 Corvettes go for 90-some.

AWD was why i was considering the GTR. Thats also why im starting to lean towards the R34 GTR when they become avalible next year. Not only are they cheaper then the 2013 GTR's but they are manual and AWD. I can use it for the track and keep my Evo for the winter.

MJB · 01-14-2013, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

The GTR doesn't drop in value enough. I guess it's in high demand.

I wouldn't waste time on the Viper. If you're facing Canadian winters, I agree that AWD is the way to go. Maybe you can find one used in decent condition and with low miles. The older Viper, iirc, doesn't have electronic aids like traction control or ABS. Not something I'd want to be stuck in during a surprise snowfall. I could be wrong about that, but I thought I heard that from a Viper owner.

But if you're seriously considering Viper, used ZR1 Corvettes go for 90-some.

You are right. 2001 was the first year Viper came with ABS. Traction control was added for the new 13'model.

Most Viper owners don't dd them, and very rarely drive in bad weather. The newer Vipers comes with "pray it doesn't rain" sport cup tires so that should tell you something lol.

Snakes709 · 01-14-2013, 02:17 PM

Only 2 reasons i was considering a viper is 1. 6 speed manual and 2. I miss the sound of the V10..lol.

shadoquad · 01-14-2013, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakes709

Only 2 reasons i was considering a viper is 1. 6 speed manual and 2. I miss the sound of the V10..lol.

Good reasons. Yeah, that engine sounds

1st · 01-14-2013, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zat_Zuma

I just think of all the money you have wasted on high performance vehicles and the way you abuse them and I feel sorry for your family because I'm sure you had the money to OWN a house by now.

I'm going to call it as I see it and tell you to grow up and start thinking more of your family needs rather than your wants.

Sad part it will probably take 10 years before you understand what I'm trying to tell you and realize that I'm trying to help you.

Lol

Davey · 01-14-2013, 07:41 PM

If you get a $90K car loan at 3.5% interest then you can't afford a $90K car.

01-13-2013, 10:55 PM	#19 (permalink)
redline727 Base Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: RVA Posts: 203 Drives: '13 MUSTANG GT 6MT Rep Power: 14	dealerships don't prefer cash sales. Less money on the backend to be made i.e. they make money off your interest rate. Plus the chances of closing on warranty products/maintenance/road hazard etc. all goes down with cash buyers. Just bc you sign a paper saying you got 5.9% interest the bank may have said 4.7% to the dealer every point the dealer up sells they get paid on from the bank. Unless its one of those nationally advertised low rates on brand new car. Typically a cash deal goes so quickly and will get a dropped price bc they realize you have money and will do the sale as quick as possible just to move a unit and hopes of making money off of you in the future in the service department if they make you a customer. __________________ 2013 Ford Mustang GT 5.0 6MT ROUSH intake \| ROUSH axle back \| ROUSH shift knob \| ROUSH coil covers 2009 NISSAN 370Z SOLD

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RoshDawg Track Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: NM / CA Posts: 981 Drives: '13 911 C2S Rep Power: 15	Hey what about the new corvette? Maybe if you trade in your evo you can get the '13 gtr and use it as a track and dd car, since the gtr is definitely dd'able. Good luck with whatever you chose! __________________ \| EVO X MR \| '11 WRX STI \| 370Z SPRT \| 911 (991) C2S \|

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shadoquad A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: . Posts: 42,608 Drives: . Rep Power: 3886	The GTR doesn't drop in value enough. I guess it's in high demand. I wouldn't waste time on the Viper. If you're facing Canadian winters, I agree that AWD is the way to go. Maybe you can find one used in decent condition and with low miles. The older Viper, iirc, doesn't have electronic aids like traction control or ABS. Not something I'd want to be stuck in during a surprise snowfall. I could be wrong about that, but I thought I heard that from a Viper owner. But if you're seriously considering Viper, used ZR1 Corvettes go for 90-some. Last edited by shadoquad; 01-14-2013 at 01:04 AM.

01-14-2013, 02:13 AM	#24 (permalink)
Shamu A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 1,059 Drives: 370Z Racecar Rep Power: 19	I haven't paid over invoice on a car for past 5 years and haven't paid more than 2.5% interest on any amount financed. My last purchase, a BMW product, was less than 1%. But then I own my home, have had steady job for over 10 years. Doesn't sound like you have a firm job and credit managers want to see some history. There is a lot more margin in viper so they can hedge some of the credit risk with increased profit they make. Japan made super car isn't going to carry same margin. Doesn't sound like you have much credit history and not many assets. A well managed credit organization will look at risk of an applicant and assess interest rate that hedges risk. given buy rate for large institutions is nearly 0% they must think you're a risk to hike interest that high. Don't forget as you start making more money taxes will start to hit you harder . $150k a year isn't really that much if your considering a luxury performance car. You'll lose half of your $50k just in depreciation and interest first couple years by purchasing one of those cars new. __________________ Grant

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Snakes709 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton Posts: 1,205 Drives: 2011 Evo-X GSR Rep Power: 18	Only 2 reasons i was considering a viper is 1. 6 speed manual and 2. I miss the sound of the V10..lol. __________________ 2011 Evo-GSR AMS 2.4 stroker/ bore, FP Black build in progress. Sponsor: DSG Performance

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Davey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 3,766 Drives: '15 NISMO 6MT Rep Power: 117171	If you get a $90K car loan at 3.5% interest then you can't afford a $90K car.

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