2013 Chevy Camaro SS 1LE
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=vYiFiWn38jw

This car made me re-fall in love with the camaro. Mild weight reduction. (Not enough to notice.) Widened tires, lighter wheels, aggressive exhaust, RED Brembo's, Upgraded suspension. No power mods, yet this car is getting almost half a second increase in overall acceleration times. It shows that with just a few modifications, this camaro is a force to be reckoned with.
Imagine breathing mods, a tune and an extra 200lb weight reduction???:excited:
I know there aren't a lot of camaro fans on the Z forum and the mustang is the muscle car of choice here... But imho, there's something special about the Camaro, and this vid definitely exposes it. :driving:

2013 Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE: Best Handling Camaro Ever! - Ignition Episode 48 - YouTube

If this 1LE is an indication of possible improved performance in the next generation? I might have to return to GM???

It looks to be a rather impressive setup

Having rented this car often, I know all the complaints they mention, that the 1LE supposedly fixes. The reasons why i never purchased the camaro was because of every fault that needed correcting on here. The feeling heavy part was a minus, but not a deal breaker... This 1LE has me in deep thought. Think I want to test drive

Its definitely one of the best 'bang for your buck' factory track cars

Chevy discusses which way to go. They're confused but at least they are striving for a second success. :tup:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...hvjrNi59fSmrKQ

With that LS7 rumor making it into the Camaro, its hard not to get excited with what they've done to keep it fresh. The 1LE is mighty impressive, it is more than the sum of it's parts. That and the ZL1 have shown that it has a world class bones, just needed some engineering love.

I've actually been tempted lately to trade my Nismo in for the 1LE. The major thing stopping me is my girlfriend already owns a 2010 Camaro 2SS 6-speed and the fact that as impressive as the 1LE is it's still heavy. Still though, in some ways it drives better than the Z. On the track I would take my Z in a heart beat but for daily driving/ripping it up on the weekends the Camaro is so much better. Easier to control and much better composed. Not to mention the torque is amazingly addictive. For now I'm just holding out. I figure I'll wait this year and see what the C7 Vette ends up like, the new STI, and what Nissan plans to do for the next Z.

My main gripe with the Camaro when i first started renting them was, outward visibility was severely compromised and the car was extremely wide, There was an unusual amount of understeer for an RWD. So if i tried to take 90 degree turns at high speeds on tight streets? The negatives of this car didnt inspire confidence. I wasn't sure of myself taking corners. Right now in my Z, I can pull a turn in this car at seriously high speeds. Breaking the 90 is probably the most important thing I can do in a sports car,imho. Most people cant do it the way it should be done.
Because of this. I can leave cars in the dust that are trying to get competitive. I take the turn and once the other car finishes the turn, I'm a block away. also helps when police want to contemplate pulling you over but aren't making a good effort to get you.
I can disappear in a turn and evade a ticket before the chase begins... lol

I had no success of this in my first few rental-runs in a camaro 2ss. Now things have changed. I've rented this car enough that I have become more confident in driving it. I can sweep my 90's better in them. Not Z good, but pretty good for this cars size. Now that the 1LE conquers the understeer issue and adds seriously more grip... I would love to throw the 1LE into a 90 and see what speed i can maintain.

I don't know if i can give up my Z? But if it can do what i want it to do? My Z will be paid off by years end... I may go v8 and add to the stable????

1LE is nice! The next gen should be interesting too as its using the much smaller and lighter ATS platform.

I am excited about the next gen camaro. I wonder if they will keep going with the 1LE and ZL1 designations in the next gen?

Looks awesome... one thing I just can't get past... why in the hell is Chevy designing an interior that looks like it came out of a 1973 Nova? Do we really need giant AC vents at eye level and a nav system you have to look down to see?

I guess it is a good thing you can fit two golf bags in the trunk, then;)

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_xXwPrxQbK18/S-...lf%20Clubs.JPG

Of course!

I respect the performance of the Camaros, and I even like the exterior design, but the interior let me down, and the visibility is horrible in that car. imo worse than the Z. But outside of that, I am well impressed by the performance and style.

I haven't driven either of the new gen. Mustang or Camao, but I definitely prefer the Camaro. It seems like the cooler car and has the big, big displacement 6.2 liter V8 in the SS. From what you say about the car not inspiring confidence.... I found the 370z Nismo intimidating in the same way from the lack of visibility out of the car. The Nismo seemed like a car that you'd have to get used to while its difficulty in driving it would teach you to become a much better drive.

Do you think you really could give up one of the best/sexiest cars from Japan for an American muscle car. ? ? . There is something special about a large V8 engine with lots of power . . haha

Honestly the visibility isn't bad. You have to get used to it... Adjust the mirrors correctly and it's fine. I like the chop top look of it. And I like the interior. It may not be made of the most luxurious materials, but I like the design of it honestly. Doesn't look like any other car.

Yeah, it's the design that is so unique with the Camaro... looks like nothing else on the road}

Yep, it only looks like 450,000 other Camaro's on the road. lol:rofl2:

My experience is different. I found i had go change the way i drive and conform to the car, than just adjust mirrors. In the Z, adjusting mirrors was enough...

I test drove a Camaro before I drove the Z. It's okay, but the interior was bad (ergonomically and material-wise) and the price seemed silly -- this was right when they came out and the dealers wanted MSRP+ for them. The one I was looking at was higher in $$$ than a Vette.

Of course, times have changed. Still, the interior hasn't changed.

Interior has gotten better. Not perfect but better.

I remember when I first drove my brother's SS and thinking how ridiculously poor the side and rear visibility is...then I bought my Z and tinted it. Now, whenever I drive the Camaro it feels like I'm a normal car.

A little camaro news for camaro enthusiasts, that camaro6, will be built HERE in the U.S.

So happy it will NO longer be built in Canada, :)

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An SS 1LE Review

2013 Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE First Test - Motor Trend

2013 Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE Front Three Quarters Photo 1

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...photo_01.html#

I'm a be honest guys, this car is making me consider getting out my Z and in the 1LE. The performance just looks insane, with the power to match. I know it won't be as nimble as my Z. Prefer the size of my Z as a sport car as well... And it's going to take getting used to cuz i like the sports car seating position of my Z as well... But that's the kind of power i want and it will cost 18k in mods or 6k in a trade...

I don't think i can part with the Z though. I still think it's an incredible car. :confused:

YOLO bro. You can always go back!

Yeah, and 10k in mods will double the HP of this thing. :tup:

best handling camaro...

the chicken that can fly... :confused:

You know what? I'm going to wait. The SS1LE/ZL1 and The C7 corvette, I look at as "A sign of things to come for GM" The next gen Camaro I think will be a shocker. I'm going to wait. I think it can ONLY get better.

I hope it's the same for the Z. I wish there was more things coming out for our gen Z in terms of excitement within the brand. It's an awesome car. I'm in love with my Z but im dissatisfied with the cost of doing things aftermarket with the Z. I am also highly dissatisfied with Nismo Aftermarket. That's the only thing straying me away.

The automatic camaro, Ive seen supercharger with 600rwhp and the only upgrades needed was higher grade fluid and a bigger cooler. Our cars auto is rated 440 and if it goes to that set limit? There's issues. And to insure that there are no issues with the auto? $8,000. My issues with the Z isnt stock performance or loving this car on all levels.
My only issues are, I love to mod and mods cost a lot to do a little. Thats MY ONLY ISSUE.

i see the packages GM is putting out and then i look at the cost of aftermarket parts. Aftermarket pricing for the camaro is very doable for me...
Then when you factor in a $1800 intake exhaust & tune is netting 80hp??? I'm like damn... When have we netted 80hp with $1800

I love power... Its an addiction :nutswinger:

Also, if i wait. I can keep my Z instead of trade. I'll have time to save for the next gen camaro.

I still don't know why you would buy this car instead of a C6 with MRC. It has plenty of chintzy interior, the same power, and went on a great diet losing weight in all the right places. Maybe I just never liked the Camaro.

You just answered your own question...

I like the vette but optioned out, it just costs too much money. The Camaro has 4 seats. I like that. The SS1LE is just an outstanding pkg and it takes a lot more to make a Camaro chassis handle that good than it takes a Corvette... You gotta respect "Underdog Engineering"

Interior... It's no Z but the 12 and 13's aren't chintzy.

You also get more utility out of it than you do a C6.

If i do get a vette? I might as well go for the gusto and get a C7. :tiphat:

So much talk of the C7 lately, i feel like it's outdated already. You should wait for the C8in 2021.

Yeah no way would I spend on a C6 right now knowing whats coming. :yum:

I rather get the camaro. And im waiting only because we are about 24 months away from the next gen camaro and im very happy with my Z. Waiting also allows me to keep my Z.
The Camaro next gen Camaro is also my contingency car, if the next gen Z doesn't impress me. The way things are going in nissan as a whole... I dont think the Z35 is going to do much for me in terms of excitement.

I expected this result, only because, everyone is saying the 1LE is comparable to the BOSS 302 for $10k less and more planted. They keep saying more planted than the stang. IRS of course WINS!!!

Wonder how much of the difference in lap times can be accounted for by the difference in tire size/model.

Not sure but i'm pretty sure the majority of it is the wider range of tuning capability for IRS vs LA suspension and the type of track they were on. Willow is very curvy. IRS will have the advantage.

C6 = high 20's right now. It's the most car for your money if you don't care about the interior, and if you're looking at a Camaro, well...you obviously don't.

I'm looking to the '15 mustang. My car is wrecked and I'm just holding out to see:
How well it's fixed.
If I still feel happy driving it.

If I do, and it's great, I'll drive it into the ground and have no note for a while. If not, '15 GT looks nice. Ford is fixing the "edgy" styling to flow more (taste), and going IRS, and their interiors are already very respectable.