The car most enthusiasts still sleep on

[UNKNOWN_370]

Yeah but it's a hyundai??? No longer a good argument. Quality has surpassed honda and toyota. In many ways hyundai now rivals Nissan/Infiniti up to a certain point.

While the hyundai genesis coupe has not been able to break out of the value stigma with it's genesis coupe. It has come a long way since 2010. It's 3.8ltr 348hp launches the 3.8 gen coupe in 5.0 seconds from a rollout to 60. and 5.4 from a straight zero. It doesn't beat the Z accel 4.6/5.1 stats but ties the G37, it's true competitor. Is now lighter, more nimble and had 85% of most G features. It did damage and made the infiniti vehicle less important over the last 2 years.

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Now Hyundai Genesis coupe is looking to attack the 335i in performance. The 2014 Genesis Sedan is to have AWD model. If this AWD system is added to other models like the gencoupe and veloster??? The hyundai will definiely invade areas that other car companies are sort of neglecting.

From my test drives of the hyundai gencoupe and sedan, There main flaw is shytty transmissions that cant epitomize the performance of high potential engines. The second thing. Though they handle well and feel good on the road. There's a crudeness under high speed turning that the hyundai truly lacks in responsiveness the G can bring. That said, the Gencoupe can still pull out equal or better track times with the right driver. Fixing the gens flaws would truly send the genesis coupe to another level putting the current G coupe, now deeper in the weird "Why do I cost so much?" status that it's currently in now..

They beat infiniti in the price/performance game. Though that beat is marginal, its a win regardless... Now they have decided to attack the competitor that @ one time, infiniti was the aggressor to BMW.

Will the Infiniti climb to new heights in 2014 and surpass even BMW? Or will Hyundai come in like a thief in the night and completely invalidate the G coupe (Next gen Infiniti will be Q coupe) by bypassing Infiniti and defeating BMW?

Hyundai always finds a way to kinda kill a good thing by going on the cheap in the very end? Will this trend end with the next gencoupe? I have a feeling, hyundai will step up hardcore. Let's see what happens?

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[6MT]

now that's funny!

[UNKNOWN_370]

Originally Posted by 6MT

now that's funny!

The gencoupe has matched G37s performance. Whats so funny about that? Its something to commend but also for comptitors to take seriously. Have you driven a genesis coupec2.0 and 3.8?

[wheee!]

I dunno 6MT.... my wife's new Veloster Turbo has all the makings of a fine automobile at a fraction of the competitors prices.... I have to say that the competition will have to watch out for Hyundai more than ever!

[G35_FTMFW]

lmao


April fools already?

[wheee!]

I have been in the Genesis and I really hate the interior compared to most other sports cars. Other than that, the numbers are impressive as well as the potential.

[UNKNOWN_370]

Originally Posted by wheee!

I have been in the Genesis and I really hate the interior compared to most other sports cars. Other than that, the numbers are impressive as well as the potential.

Yeah... The interior needs work, but as an enthusiast, thats really a minor issue. Now I'm not saying the gen is better than a G37s overall, but it is a performance twin, even with certain deficiencies. Also, the gen's reduces weight makes it feel a little more nimble than the G which imho gives the Gen a marginal win. I owned both G35 and 37s. The gen has trade offs to infiniti but provides slighly more fun overall handling experience.
Fix the transmission and the win won't be close anymore. It will be a landslide victory on hyundai's part. Infiniti only wins in more responsive transmissions and luxury/interior.

[Red__Zed]

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Yeah... The interior needs work, but as an enthusiast, thats really a minor issue. Now I'm not saying the gen is better than a G37s overall, but it is a performance twin, even with certain deficiencies. Also, the gen's reduces weight makes it feel a little more nimble than the G which imho gives the Gen a marginal win. I owned both G35 and 37s. The gen has trade offs to infiniti but provides slighly more fun overall handling experience.
Fix the transmission and the win won't be close anymore. It will be a landslide victory on hyundai's part. Infiniti only wins in more responsive transmissions and luxury/interior.

The chassis feel is still what kills the car in my mind.


Mag numbers are garbage. Winning on paper doesn't mean a win in feel....otherwise cars like the s2000 would have never sold.

[luigi90210]

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

The chassis feel is still what kills the car in my mind.


Mag numbers are garbage. Winning on paper doesn't mean a win in feel....otherwise cars like the s2000 would have never sold.

in my opinion its the transmission, the manual transmission feels slushy, gear changes dont feel right and their new 8AT just has to many gears, its always shifting up and down to maintain power

[UNKNOWN_370]

Originally Posted by luigi90210

in my opinion its the transmission, the manual transmission feels slushy, gear changes dont feel right and their new 8AT just has to many gears, its always shifting up and down to maintain power

I agree with this most. There is some mild chassis slop compared to the infiniti but the percentage is low. The overall value to performance is high and the luxury factor is a small point from the enthusiast standpoint.

The Real point of the thread though is that, Hyundai has set its goals pretty high. I think, performance wise it has proven you don't need to spend 47k for good performance.
I think the next gen will show more than just a great "budget sports car" I think we'll see a real competitor.

[Rui Z]

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

The chassis feel is still what kills the car in my mind.


Mag numbers are garbage. Winning on paper doesn't mean a win in feel....otherwise cars like the s2000 would have never sold.

Man, I hope Honda comes out with an S2000 again.

[m4a1mustang]

Originally Posted by Rui Z

Man, I hope Honda comes out with an S2000 again.

I don't. Because they'll royally f*ck it up.

[Z-Girl 12]

Originally Posted by Rui Z

Man, I hope Honda comes out with an S2000 again.

I knew when they discontinued the H22 Lude and the GSR was gone I would NEVER go back to Honda. Aside from my DD Accord lol So the thought of them bringing the S2000 back scares me...they left on a high note and should leave it as such.

[KERMIT]

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

The chassis feel is still what kills the car in my mind.


Mag numbers are garbage. Winning on paper doesn't mean a win in feel....otherwise cars like the s2000 would have never sold.

Said every FRS/BRZ owner

[m4a1mustang]

Originally Posted by KERMIT

Said every FRS/BRZ owner

It is true. The BRZ isn't a numbers car.

Hell, no car should be a numbers car. Drive a car because you enjoy driving it... not because it puts down numbers.