2013 Car and Driver Lightning Lap

370Zsteve · 05-15-2013, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Anyone notice the 3.13.8 for the gencoupe R-spec & 3.17.5 for the infiniti Gcoupe sport???
Not good.

I think the 370z sport needs to be on here. It's 150lbs lighter, the 9/10 staggers are perfect for track vs the 9.5/10.5 borderline overkill for taking corners. And the sport Z should be equipped with RE-11's. Since Nissan keeps hiking the prices on the Z for almost no reason. The least they coulda done was upgrade the stock tires.
Z suspension is easily improved cheaply. Unfortunately though. That can't be done for the lightning lap. The Z potential is much higher than whats on paper here. The Nismo is overkill for this type of tracking.

Car & Driver used to be my favorite car mag. I think it sucks now and the writers can't drive for ****!

Caustic · 05-15-2013, 06:13 PM

I am not sure why you are giving JungleZ any airspace. I have not seen 1 worthy contribution from him on any conversation in this site. And responding to him just rehashes the same arguments on 50 million other threads while hijacking those threads. Useless.

Car comparisons are fun for about 5 minutes. After that, it really boils down to personal preference. If you love owning your Z, great, that is why you are on this forum. If you hate owning your Z, state it once, we all get the picture, then move on. If you don't, then you are just a miserable sod who has to deal with owning a car you hate.

Tazicon · 05-15-2013, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ

yikes looks like lots of Z fanboys Jimmies were rustled, im not gonna post anymore in this thread dont worry. I''ll let you guys know when i get rid of the car.

I am actually a Porsche Fan Boy but I can take a car for what is worth and enjoy it. I never buy a car with out researching it. I knew what I was getting into well before I bought the Z.

Edit: After a year and a half and 28k miles I still love my Z.

asdfsammich · 05-15-2013, 08:41 PM

Interesting read.

The only thing that separates the guy with all the charts and the leaser's remorse guy is how they go about trolling.

One has way too much time on his hands and the leaser's remorse guy, well that guy just might have a learning disability I'm afraid.

At the end of the day they both can't move beyond trying to mash the square peg into the round hole.

The z is a moderately priced sports coupe with a moderately compromised design and flaws that come with that approach. Not that hard a concept to get.

Tapatalk2 ...

Red__Zed · 05-15-2013, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by asdfsammich

Interesting read.

The only thing that separates the guy with all the charts and the leaser's remorse guy is how they go about trolling.

One has way too much time on his hands and the leaser's remorse guy, well that guy just might have a learning disability I'm afraid.

At the end of the day they both can't move beyond trying to mash the square peg into the round hole.

The z is a moderately priced sports coupe with a moderately compromised design and flaws that come with that approach. Not that hard a concept to get.

Tapatalk2 ...

Too much time on my hands? I guess so. Airports are a boring place.

If pointing out that home-made facts don't hold up to scrutiny is trolling, then I guess I'll take my trolling trophy and trollololololol my way home

I don't have any problem with the Z, I just find it ridiculous when people say things like:

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Originally Posted by red6spd

A 370 is as faster or faster then a Caymen S. Y spend more on a car thats not faster and is very expensive to maintain.

I've never been very good at shutting my mouth when people are making stuff up. Maybe it's a flaw that I should work on, but I like to consider it a feature. And, much like many features....it's kind of a love/hate thing.

It's probably closer to early stage BMW i-Drive and in need of serious refinement, but that sounds hard.

Jungle on the other hand...I'm convinced he loves the Z and just likes hearing other people say nice things about it. His dislikes are too inconsistent to be real. It's really a genius strategy when you think about it

red6spd · 05-15-2013, 09:42 PM

@Red_Zed. I didn't call you out so don't get mad at me. And that quote you posted, when and where is that from? Seems old and from another thread.

370Zsteve · 05-15-2013, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

2013 Cayman is a big step up. Practically a brand new car for 2013 while the Z has stayed mostly the same. The Cayman entered a new performance envelope so you can't really compare them like in years past.

Is the price a big step up? Because the performance vs the z has always been about the price difference, and the Z has always come out on top in bang-for-the-buck. By the time you finish optioning a Cayman S, the damned thing is probably $80 grand or something.

At that point, all I would think about would be 'Stingray'

red6spd · 05-15-2013, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Is the price a big step up? Because the performance vs the z has always been about the price difference, and the Z has always come out on top in bang-for-the-buck. By the time you finish optioning a Cayman S, the damned thing is probably $80 grand or something.

At that point, all I would think about would be 'Stingray'

I cant speak for cornering G's slaloms braking cause I don't really feel like looking them up (maybe Red_Zed can) but straight line performance is about the same with the new Cayman S maybe being a tad faster. But like you said the car starts at $72,900 and just gets more expensive.

370Zsteve · 05-15-2013, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

I cant speak for cornering G's slaloms braking cause I don't really feel like looking them up (maybe Red_Zed can) but straight line performance is about the same with the new Cayman S maybe being a tad faster. But like you said the car starts at $72,900 and just gets more expensive.

It STARTS at 72,900 now? Haha, when you option it, expect to pay about $90K then.

b1adesofcha0s · 05-15-2013, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Too much time on my hands? I guess so. Airports are a boring place.

If pointing out that home-made facts don't hold up to scrutiny is trolling, then I guess I'll take my trolling trophy and trollololololol my way home

I don't have any problem with the Z, I just find it ridiculous when people say things like:

I've never been very good at shutting my mouth when people are making stuff up. Maybe it's a flaw that I should work on, but I like to consider it a feature. And, much like many features....it's kind of a love/hate thing.

It's probably closer to early stage BMW i-Drive and in need of serious refinement, but that sounds hard.

Jungle on the other hand...I'm convinced he loves the Z and just likes hearing other people say nice things about it. His dislikes are too inconsistent to be real. It's really a genius strategy when you think about it

It's just the reputation of RZTS that makes everyone think you're trollolololing all the time.

Red__Zed · 05-15-2013, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

It STARTS at 72,900 now? Haha, when you option it, expect to pay about $90K then.

Looks like it starts just under $64K.

red6spd · 05-15-2013, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

It STARTS at 72,900 now? Haha, when you option it, expect to pay about $90K then.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My bad that was Canada Porsche. It starts at $63,800 for the s

sorry

asdfsammich · 05-15-2013, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

... I've never been very good at shutting my mouth when people are making stuff up. Maybe it's a flaw that I should work on, but I like to consider it a feature. And, much like many features....it's kind of a love/hate thing. ...

Jungle on the other hand...I'm convinced he loves the Z and just likes hearing other people say nice things about it. His dislikes are too inconsistent to be real. It's really a genius strategy when you think about it

Lols! Elaborate spin is pretty funny, so fair enough.

Tapatalk2 ...

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-16-2013, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

@Red_Zed. I didn't call you out so don't get mad at me. And that quote you posted, when and where is that from? Seems old and from another thread.

What you said is true to a point anyway. But its only flawed in the sense that you didnt explain the Porsche is much better at the limit. and is a faster, more responsive car in the triple digits, that also possesses a higher top speed.

But this is a Z forum. We don't have to explain porsche's prowess if we dont want to...

I love Porsche's. I own a Z based on Nissan's quest to rival out a poor mans porsche...

But in this case... You know what? Fvck Porsche.

There, I said it. Lets move on.

370zrider · 05-18-2013, 09:32 PM

Does anyone knows what time does the 370z records in the Top Gear test track?

05-15-2013, 06:13 PM	#242 (permalink)
Caustic Base Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Florida Posts: 243 Drives: '02 Acura NSX Rep Power: 13	I am not sure why you are giving JungleZ any airspace. I have not seen 1 worthy contribution from him on any conversation in this site. And responding to him just rehashes the same arguments on 50 million other threads while hijacking those threads. Useless. Car comparisons are fun for about 5 minutes. After that, it really boils down to personal preference. If you love owning your Z, great, that is why you are on this forum. If you hate owning your Z, state it once, we all get the picture, then move on. If you don't, then you are just a miserable sod who has to deal with owning a car you hate. UNKNOWN_370, 370Zsteve and b1adesofcha0s like this.

05-15-2013, 08:41 PM	#244 (permalink)
asdfsammich Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Southern California Posts: 456 Drives: 09 370Z SR MT Rep Power: 13	Interesting read. The only thing that separates the guy with all the charts and the leaser's remorse guy is how they go about trolling. One has way too much time on his hands and the leaser's remorse guy, well that guy just might have a learning disability I'm afraid. At the end of the day they both can't move beyond trying to mash the square peg into the round hole. The z is a moderately priced sports coupe with a moderately compromised design and flaws that come with that approach. Not that hard a concept to get. Tapatalk2 ... UNKNOWN_370, 370Zsteve, red6spd and 1 others like this.

05-15-2013, 09:42 PM	#246 (permalink)
red6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 3,277 Drives: 2010 Z Coupe M6 SPT Rep Power: 21	@Red_Zed. I didn't call you out so don't get mad at me. And that quote you posted, when and where is that from? Seems old and from another thread. UNKNOWN_370 likes this. __________________ 2010 Base+Sport 6spd: Stillen G3, FI Non-Resonated CBE, FI Non-Resonated Test Pipes, UpRev Tuned, Custom 24R Oil Cooler, JDM Rear Fog-OEM Harness. ???Whp ???WTQ (Will find out come spring time)

05-18-2013, 09:32 PM	#255 (permalink)
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