2013 Car and Driver Lightning Lap

ZMan8 · 05-08-2013, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I can attest that it does feel heavy, especially coming from the S2K... it's like a boat. However... you knew this all along. Why'd you sign the contract?

IMO, if you impulse buy/lease there is really no room to complain. You've got to :dealwithit: like a man. Or use LeaseTrader.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-08-2013, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ

All these mods can be sold once i go back to stock and get out of this heavy pig

Next gen z needs to be lighter and leaner, I knew I wouldn't want this fat pig more than 3 years.

Look at the comp for a minute. and im going to go by proper engines.

Mustang v6 track pkg with loaded pkg. $31,000 weight 3500lbs... 305hp
Camaro v6 loaded rs pkg loaded @$32,500 weight 3700lbs... 323hp
Nissan 370z v6 base/sport manual $36,500 3300lbs... 332hp
Hyundai gencoupe v6 R-spec $30,500 3400lbs... 350hp

And this v6 matches or gives 93% of the power of the v8 versions of the muscle cars while still being a v6. The Z is pricey by comparison. But you blame the car for things that are blatently your fault for not being savvy when you made the purchase

The Z can be negotiated easier than the rest save for the mustang v6. it's easy to drop price on it. At least in my region.

JungleZ · 05-08-2013, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I can attest that it does feel heavy, especially coming from the S2K... it's like a boat. However... you knew this all along. Why'd yo sign the contract, then?

I remember seeing your post on vw vortex that you don't believe the z doesnt do anything special. I'm surprised you got one again

m4a1mustang · 05-08-2013, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ

I remember seeing your post on vw vortex that you don't believe the z doesnt do anything special. I'm surprised you got one again

I'm on VW Vortex?

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-08-2013, 04:16 PM

Z is a master of none but a jack of all trades. If you want it to be special in a certain area. It needs to be tweaked for that. You buy mustangs and they come ready to do one job and you buy it for that job. No worries. The Z is a different type of car. It will do all well but wont be the master at a specialized area till you tweak it. This is not a car for guys that expect out the box perfection. This car is a canvas for the personalized tuner.

In other words. This car wasn't designed for the masses. It was designed for a special group of people who understand the Z's "philosophy of use". (For all you TNP'ers out there...

)

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I'm on VW Vortex?

red6spd · 05-08-2013, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I'm on VW Vortex?

LOL. Is someone pretending to be you now on other forums?

m4a1mustang · 05-08-2013, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

LOL. Is someone pretending to be you now on other forums?

I think he just got confused from an S2Ki post of mine in which I said:

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang on s2ki

I owned a 370Z. I liked it, but not as much as my S. IMO it tries to be too many things at once but doesn't really excel at anything in particular.

It's a good compromise if you want a cross between a 5.0 and a S2000. Yes, I owned a 5.0 too.

Which I stand by.

The only difference between now and then is I decided a compromise between a 5.0 and s2000 is exactly what I want. And a loaded C7 is too expensive.

JungleZ · 05-08-2013, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I'm on VW Vortex?

It was s2ki my bad lol

m4a1mustang · 05-08-2013, 04:24 PM

I do understand why it is easy to get frustrated with the Z after owning an S2000. In terms of the driving experience it's hard to match an S2000. It's a lightweight compared to the Z and its driving dynamics are extremely good. Clutch and transmission are perfection. Short of its EPS it's almost "perfect" as far as the overall feel goes.

But it's a royal PITA to live with day to day. And it's slow.

m4a1mustang · 05-08-2013, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ

It was s2ki my bad lol

That's what I thought.

It really isn't hard to imagine why I'd buy another one, though. I always said the Z is a very good compromise between a true sports car like the S2K and a more muscley car like the Mustang.

I never hated the Z. I was disappointed with my '09, but the things that disappointed me seem to have been put to rest with the later models.

Also, Midnight Blue.

m4a1mustang · 05-08-2013, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I do understand why it is easy to get frustrated with the Z after owning an S2000. In terms of the driving experience it's hard to match an S2000. It's a lightweight compared to the Z and its driving dynamics are extremely good. Clutch and transmission are perfection. Short of its EPS it's almost "perfect" as far as the overall feel goes.

But it's a royal PITA to live with day to day. And it's slow.

Now what's funny is I have a friend with an Exige who always ***** on the S2K for being a fat pig.

Perspective, my friends.

Drive what you like. DO YOUR RESEARCH and make sure it's a good fit before you sign on the dotted line.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-08-2013, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I think he just got confused from an S2Ki post of mine in which I said:

Which I stand by.

The only difference between now and then is I decided a compromise between a 5.0 and s2000 is exactly what I want. And a loaded C7 is too expensive.

I have a PM of your true feelings about Ford.

But we'll keep that between me and you.

Maybe???

m4a1mustang · 05-08-2013, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I have a PM of your true feelings about Ford.

But we'll keep that between me and you.

Maybe???

Yeah well I have... nudez.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-08-2013, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Yeah well I have... nudez.

Lol... No thanks. I don't have a Mick Jagger avatar. lmfao

m4a1mustang · 05-08-2013, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Lol... No thanks. I don't have a Mick Jagger avatar. lmfao

Bowie, bro. C'mon!

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