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vividracing · 07-07-2011, 07:22 PM

The CTS-V is definitely an awesome car. The wagon has a sub 6 second 0-60... Incredible for a wagon. Definitely not a wagon for the wife, unless you're married to Danica Patrick.

ImportConvert · 07-07-2011, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Sarcasm

only you would compare a $30k Z to a $90k Caddy.

The CTS-V is nice, and wicked fast. Chevy saw people were pumping money out for AMG Benzos and made the right decision by putting out the CTS-V. Of course Lingenfelter was putting Supercharged v8s in CTS for a while now.

Only you would pay $20-30K over MSRP.

Dark Sarcasm · 07-07-2011, 08:13 PM

I thought the V's were more expensive than that. Thats what GM has to do to compete with the imports.

AlphaSnacks · 07-07-2011, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Sarcasm

only you would compare a $30k Z to a $90k Caddy.

Uhh, the CTS-V is $62K and comes fully loaded from the factory. A fully loaded 370Z runs $46K - the difference in price is not as vast as you're suggesting. It's apples-to-apples it $16K, not $60K.

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Originally Posted by vividracing

The CTS-V is definitely an awesome car. The wagon has a sub 6 second 0-60... Incredible for a wagon. Definitely not a wagon for the wife, unless you're married to Danica Patrick.

CTS-V Coupe, Wagon, and Sedan all weigh nearly the same amount (difference varies by around 100lbs between all 3). They all hit 60 in the 4s, and run nearly identical 1/4s.

Dark Sarcasm · 07-07-2011, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnold K.

Uhh, the CTS-V is $62K and comes fully loaded from the factory. A fully loaded 370Z runs $46K - the difference in price is not as vast as you're suggesting. It's apples-to-apples it $16K, not $60K.

I apologize for my ignorance. Price points aside I do not believe the CTS-V should be compared to a Z. If that was the case then you should also compare the ZR1 to a Z. And the AMG C63 and the BMW M5.

Import Convert in 3,2,1........

AlphaSnacks · 07-07-2011, 09:00 PM

What? Dude, what the hell are you talking about? The ZR1 is $100K. How can you even get anywhere near to comparing that price to a Z? Just stop. And the price difference between a C63 and an M5 is $30K, that's literally a whole car value difference.

Brutal 370Z · 07-08-2011, 08:45 AM

I don't think you can compare the two. First of all, price aside, they're trying to accomplish two different things: Z is a pure sports car with a sporty feel, and the CTS-V is a muscle car packed into a luxury sedan, or a 4 seater coupe. Also, the 15k difference is pretty significant if you ask me....that puts them in different categories.

CBRich · 07-08-2011, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnold K.

Uhh, the CTS-V is $62K and comes fully loaded from the factory. A fully loaded 370Z runs $46K - the difference in price is not as vast as you're suggesting. It's apples-to-apples it $16K, not $60K.

A 370Z Touring w/ Sport and Navi is 43K. A CTS-V Coupe is 63K. B

AlphaSnacks · 07-08-2011, 12:54 PM

My 370Z with the Black Cherry and Nismo Pads was 45K. If you get the illuminated sills and some of the other small crap, it neared $46K. Regardless, the point was that the price difference between the two was that it was nowhere near the $60K difference he made it to be.

Yes, they are still quite different in price and will likely never be cross shopped because you can get thousands off the MSRP of the 370Z until you reach invoice - meanwhile, there is no such room with the CTS-V. So realistically, the price difference is around $20K.

nuTinmuch · 07-08-2011, 01:45 PM

While I love the CTS-V Wagon, the interior isn't really that good for a luxury car.

red6spd · 07-08-2011, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

No, that sums it up. Kicks import *** on the street/strip, sucks regarding the interior.

Except wait.

Have you ever sat in a CTS-V?

I have. Sat in a few 370Z Tourings, too. Seats in the CTS-V are worlds better, and the interior is made of higher grade material. Hmmm...

After sitting inside your Vette I bet any interior is nice

AlphaSnacks · 07-08-2011, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nuTinmuch

While I love the CTS-V Wagon, the interior isn't really that good for a luxury car.

I'm glad someone said it.

Most critics have agreed with this sentiment, as well. The CTS in general uses very cheap plastics all around the center console and dash that begin to rattle. I've sat in the CTS-V Coupe and Sedan, and I was turned off by the cheapness of center console. It's a great looking interior, but a lot of people complain it creaks like hell.

Dark Sarcasm · 07-08-2011, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnold K.

What? Dude, what the hell are you talking about? The ZR1 is $100K. How can you even get anywhere near to comparing that price to a Z? Just stop. And the price difference between a C63 and an M5 is $30K, that's literally a whole car value difference.

ugh, oh brother, thats what I'm saying, none of those cars should be compared to the Z, jeez. Therefore my response is to someone who was comparing the seats of a CTS-V to a Z.

Actually, you can compare whatever you want. Frigging compare monkeys to chez-whiz for all i care. I'm just saying the CTS-V is in another class from the Z.

you can pick up a CTS-V for about the same as a Z06, man, i'd be all over that !!

Dark Sarcasm · 07-08-2011, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnold K.

I'm glad someone said it.

Most critics have agreed with this sentiment, as well. The CTS in general uses very cheap plastics all around the center console and dash that begin to rattle. I've sat in the CTS-V Coupe and Sedan, and I was turned off by the cheapness of center console. It's a great looking interior, but a lot of people complain it creaks like hell.

thats one thing i have always thought about chevys, they seem to rattle, alot, after a few years.

nuTinmuch · 07-08-2011, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnold K.

I'm glad someone said it.

Most critics have agreed with this sentiment, as well. The CTS in general uses very cheap plastics all around the center console and dash that begin to rattle. I've sat in the CTS-V Coupe and Sedan, and I was turned off by the cheapness of center console. It's a great looking interior, but a lot of people complain it creaks like hell.

Yeah, the interior looks classy, but it doesn't feel classy. There is a lot of hard plastic everywhere. Likewise, outside of the V engine, the other options really aren't stellar.

In my honest opinion, the new Hyundai Sonata has a better interior -- and I think that really says all you need to know.

With that said, I'd love a CTS-V wagon.

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vividracing The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Gilbert, AZ Age: 38 Posts: 7,306 Drives: 350Z,370Z,GTR Rep Power: 39	The CTS-V is definitely an awesome car. The wagon has a sub 6 second 0-60... Incredible for a wagon. Definitely not a wagon for the wife, unless you're married to Danica Patrick. __________________ Rocky @ Vivid ♦ 480.966.3040 x236 ♦ Rocky@vividracing.com Email, PM, or call me directly for aggressive The370Z.com member pricing!!!

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Dark Sarcasm Track Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Katy Texas Posts: 552 Drives: 11 CTS-V Coupe Rep Power: 16	I thought the V's were more expensive than that. Thats what GM has to do to compete with the imports. __________________ wax

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Brutal 370Z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Greater Toronto Area Posts: 357 Drives: 11' MB/Pers/6M/S/Nav Rep Power: 14	I don't think you can compare the two. First of all, price aside, they're trying to accomplish two different things: Z is a pure sports car with a sporty feel, and the CTS-V is a muscle car packed into a luxury sedan, or a 4 seater coupe. Also, the 15k difference is pretty significant if you ask me....that puts them in different categories. __________________ Stillen G3/CBE/HFC, Nismo S-tune Front Chin Spoiler, 20% tint, Password JDM V2 Shift Knob

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nuTinmuch A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,092 Drives: PG 7AT 370Z Rep Power: 18	While I love the CTS-V Wagon, the interior isn't really that good for a luxury car. __________________ nuTinmuch! -- Platinum Graphite 370Z -- Check out my Gallery thread here!

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AlphaSnacks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Windermere, FL Posts: 1,618 Drives: '13 XKR-S, '10 370Z Rep Power: 18	What? Dude, what the hell are you talking about? The ZR1 is $100K. How can you even get anywhere near to comparing that price to a Z? Just stop. And the price difference between a C63 and an M5 is $30K, that's literally a whole car value difference.

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AlphaSnacks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Windermere, FL Posts: 1,618 Drives: '13 XKR-S, '10 370Z Rep Power: 18	My 370Z with the Black Cherry and Nismo Pads was 45K. If you get the illuminated sills and some of the other small crap, it neared $46K. Regardless, the point was that the price difference between the two was that it was nowhere near the $60K difference he made it to be. Yes, they are still quite different in price and will likely never be cross shopped because you can get thousands off the MSRP of the 370Z until you reach invoice - meanwhile, there is no such room with the CTS-V. So realistically, the price difference is around $20K.