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danegrey 01-01-2013 02:03 PM

2009 gtr -- $59,981
 
Toying around with the idea of trading in the 12 370Z for 2009 GTR in the Atlanta area

Used 2009 Nissan GT-R Coupe For Sale in Atlanta, GA, Global Imports BMW Stock: T9M250682 Marietta, Roswell and Decatur Area

where it is at..

Was wondering what anyone thoughts are and if its a bit too high....

I like doing things like this, not that it will happen, but you never know, what will happen

I do owe a bit on the Z yet and it has 22500 miles on it....

Thanks for your thoughts

chrischhorn 01-01-2013 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by danegrey (Post 2088539)
Toying around with the idea of trading in the 12 370Z for 2009 GTR in the Atlanta area

Used 2009 Nissan GT-R Coupe For Sale in Atlanta, GA, Global Imports BMW Stock: T9M250682 Marietta, Roswell and Decatur Area

where it is at..

Was wondering what anyone thoughts are and if its a bit too high....

I like doing things like this, not that it will happen, but you never know, what will happen

I do owe a bit on the Z yet and it has 22500 miles on it....

Thanks for your thoughts

22500 on a '12? Either way just remember, you may get the GTR for under 60k but if the originally price of the GTR is way out of budget......maintaining the GTR with that amount of driving is gonna sink you.

DEpointfive0 01-01-2013 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by chrischhorn (Post 2088685)
22500 on a '12? Either way just remember, you may get the GTR for under 60k but if the originally price of the GTR is way out of budget......maintaining the GTR with that amount of driving is gonna sink you.

Couldn't have said it better myself

SMJane_Again 01-01-2013 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2088741)
Couldn't have said it better myself

x2. Have to look at the purchase holistically (gas/insurance/mnx/etc), not just at the initial purchase price. I would concentrate on getting your Z paid off quickly and setting aside that payment once complete towards a bigger down payment on a GTR or as a buffer for the inevitable.

S.

Z-Girl 12 01-01-2013 03:52 PM

We all have that "dream" car, but just because I can afford the payments doesn't mean I can afford the maintenance. So I try to be happy with what is fully in my budget and for now the Z in my main man. I don't want to be driving a hot car such as the GTR and be worried about when the tune up time comes can I afford it. Just my $.02!

Rui Z 01-01-2013 04:05 PM

MC (moderator) said that maintenance isn't much except for tires. I'm sure you can haggle the price down more. Buy it!

tjlazer 01-01-2013 04:53 PM

What kind of payments are you looking at? Will you get a 72 or 84 month loan?

Also if you put 22K on a car in one year, I would not get a GT-R as a DD. ouch

ZKraken22 01-01-2013 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SMJane_Again (Post 2088748)
x2. Have to look at the purchase holistically (gas/insurance/mnx/etc), not just at the initial purchase price. I would concentrate on getting your Z paid off quickly and setting aside that payment once complete towards a bigger down payment on a GTR or as a buffer for the inevitable.

S.

yup thats what im doing

MC 01-01-2013 05:25 PM

make sure both the transmission and diff fluids have been changed at the 18K mark
if so that leaves you with another 8K miles before its needed again. that change of both fluids will run you around $1K

also with 27K miles take a look at the rotors and make sure there are no cracks around the drilled holes and your fingernail cant catch a lip at the top of the rotor

i see its not at the nissan dealership. i would have a nissan tech pull up engine and tranny temp history records as that will give you an idea of how its been treated aswell as VDC OFF STALL STARTS( which is launch control) since its a 2009 with an early VIN # before the reflash. if it has more than a couple i wouldnt buy it. also i would see if they could tell you if its ever been tuned


price isnt too wildy high especially from a dealership but i would be in for about 57Kish on that car with the mileage


maintance isnt too high besides tires and it looks like they have been swapped to a non run flat michelin

chrischhorn 01-01-2013 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 2088849)
What kind of payments are you looking at? Will you get a 72 or 84 month loan?

Also if you put 22K on a car in one year, I would not get a GT-R as a DD. ouch

22k in a year on a GTR. OEM says that the GTR brakes will go out in about 18k miles worth of STREET driving. No track time. Brake job on the GTR is anywhere form $4500-$8500. If you are still contemplating, just google the upkeep on a GTR. $8-10k for ANNUAL maintenance.

Trips 01-01-2013 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MC (Post 2088875)
make sure both the transmission and diff fluids have been changed at the 18K mark
if so that leaves you with another 8K miles before its needed again. that change of both fluids will run you around $1K

also with 27K miles take a look at the rotors and make sure there are no cracks around the drilled holes and your fingernail cant catch a lip at the top of the rotor

i see its not at the nissan dealership. i would have a nissan tech pull up engine and tranny temp history records as that will give you an idea of how its been treated aswell as VDC OFF STALL STARTS( which is launch control) since its a 2009 with an early VIN # before the reflash. if it has more than a couple i wouldnt buy it. also i would see if they could tell you if its ever been tuned


price isnt too wildy high especially from a dealership but i would be in for about 57Kish on that car with the mileage


maintance isnt too high besides tires and it looks like they have been swapped to a non run flat michelin

Good Advice! :tup:

MC 01-01-2013 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chrischhorn (Post 2088878)
22k in a year on a GTR. OEM says that the GTR brakes will go out in about 18k miles worth of STREET driving. No track time. Brake job on the GTR is anywhere form $4500-$8500. If you are still contemplating, just google the upkeep on a GTR. $8-10k for ANNUAL maintenance.



brakes last closer to 30K+ with no tracking and you can probably get by with just a pad change the first time at about 20K or when needed if no rotor damage or extreme wear.

yes an all OEM brake replacement is about 6K but you can go to like a stillen AP rotor slotted or jhook set with pads for about 3Kish. No one really goes back to OEM brake parts on a GTR and if they do there are a lot of take off parts available out there from owners who ditch the OEM stuff.

On my 09 i sold it with 14,500 miles on it and had probably 40% brake pad life and rotors were in great condition and could have easily taken a pad swap if needed. that was with maybe 12-14 autocrosses and 3 track days and handful of strip runs as part of those 14.5 miles

oil change is around every 6K miles ($60-100) tranny and diff every 18K miles ($1K) tires every 7-9K miles ( $2200 for OEM runflats $1500+ for aftermarket non runflats)

so for example if you drive less than 10K miles a year ( i averaged 7K+ in my 09 and just 3-4K on my 12) your looking at a couple oil changes a year and maybe a set of tires or even just fronts as they wear out much quicker than rears and can be changed in pairs if the wear difference (diameter) isnt too great. ive put on a set of 8/32nd fronts with maybe 4-5/32nd rears and had no issues.

then say a $1K major fluid change roughly every other year..

so in a two year period of 20K miles maybe $4K in maintenance and most of that is tires taking in to account a full set

in calender year 2012 was all in for about $1400 maintenance as i would have spent maybe 1K on front tires and then $60 for an oil change back in june. while there At 4K miles i did swap out my diff fluid to the new 2013 nismo spec for $300 but it wasnt needed and purely optional.

Cmike2780 01-01-2013 06:03 PM

Too many unknowns and too risky if you don't have sufficient funds at your disposal. If it were brand new with a warranty, I'd say go for it...but you just don't know how the car has been treated. You may be able to afford the maintenance, but could you afford a new engine or transmission out of warranty?

MC 01-01-2013 06:29 PM

that is something to think about for sure i probably wouldnt ever own a GTR out of warranty and thats another reason why i wouldnt tune my own personal car

on that 09 there is a 5 year 60K powertrain but after that you are on your own. with that said it isnt as scary as it used to be a transmission rebuild is about 3-4K at a trusted GTR tuner shop. engine are super solid and a failure wouldnt be too high on a things to worry about list unless it was a major power build. the bumper to bumper is already over and that covers things like the electronics which are pretty expensive in this car. would suck to buy one of these at the upper level of your budget then the NAV/INFO unit or something like that go out on it

danegrey 01-01-2013 07:11 PM

Thanks all for the input, that is exactly what I was looking for....
gives me stuff to think about, but I think I will go and see it and see what happens...

Funny thing about this car, when looking at the car fax, it was at a Nissan dealer here in town and then auction off.....

Thanks again

Compdoc777 01-01-2013 07:35 PM

I only show $60 for front and rear pads on the. Nissan GTR. If you can change them yourself then that is not at all expensive.

I am sure if you take it in the dealership with do the regular raping. Hello they charged my g-pa $1000 in1984 for a checkup on his Delta olds 88 and all they did there was change the oil and check not change any fluids. That was no supercar.

I might buy that GTR!

MC 01-01-2013 07:50 PM

OEM replacement pads for the GTR are insane.. they list for well over $1300 from the dealership but again no one in their right mind buys them even at 10-15% over dealer cost like a lot of vendors we have sell them for (MSRP is something like $855 for fronts and $570 for rears lol)

most go with something aftermarket like Carbotech or Endless pads for about 1/3rd of that. you can get a nice set of pads for $500 range. Me i just bought a set of take off new OEM pads for about $350 with just a few hundred miles on them

DEpointfive0 01-01-2013 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Compdoc777 (Post 2089050)
I only show $60 for front and rear pads on the. Nissan GTR. If you can change them yourself then that is not at all expensive.

I am sure if you take it in the dealership with do the regular raping. Hello they charged my g-pa $1000 in1984 for a checkup on his Delta olds 88 and all they did there was change the oil and check not change any fluids. That was no supercar.

I might buy that GTR!

Quote:

Originally Posted by MC (Post 2089065)
OEM replacement pads for the GTR are insane.. they list for well over $1300 from the dealership but again no one in their right mind buys them even at 10-15% over dealer cost like a lot of vendors we have sell them for (MSRP is something like $855 for fronts and $570 for rears lol)

most go with something aftermarket like Carbotech or Endless pads for about 1/3rd of that. you can get a nice set of pads for $500 range. Me i just bought a set of take off new OEM pads for about $350 with just a few hundred miles on them

Yeah...
When I saw CompDoc's response I was like $60 for used pads that are worn to the metal maybe...

My ISF pads are like $400 at the dealershit, so I doubt you can get the for the GTR for $60 anywhere

mitchb 01-01-2013 08:33 PM

I CALLED ABOUT THAT gtr have you been to look at it?

mitchb 01-02-2013 06:43 PM

that much on a break job what the heck does that include rotors calibers pad etc?

Waiz 01-02-2013 07:03 PM

Sub'd to this thread so I can reference it when it's time to buy a GT-R

MC 01-02-2013 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mitchb (Post 2090950)
that much on a break job what the heck does that include rotors calibers pad etc?

no calipers just OEM rotors and pads. rotors are list for about 1K each alone so with pads thats 5300 MSRP before labor...but thats a fairytale and wont happen in the real world unless your some rich doctor/lawyer or whatever who knows nothing about the car and just drops it off and says i need new brakes and lets the dealer pile it on

your 2 real world options are aftermarket pads and rotors that are better than OEM or take off OEM parts with low mileage. both will put you 3K or less for a full on brake change

Jamielle@FP 01-03-2013 07:35 AM

I think that is a really good deal on the car, its VERY hard to find a GT-R for under 60k even if they have 40k miles. I know that Global gave the guy 51k or so for his trade-in so you should have some room to haggle with them.

danegrey 01-03-2013 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mitchb (Post 2089125)
I CALLED ABOUT THAT gtr have you been to look at it?

no not yet, probably going there on Friday, 1/4......

Jamielle@FP 01-03-2013 08:00 AM

If its still there this weekend I might go take a glance at it but I really want a White one, not a huge fan of Super Silver

danegrey 01-04-2013 09:04 AM

not going to be able to make it today there,
maybe not at all, in reading all this information about it....
going to have to do some more thinking...
thanks for all the input


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