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Old 01-06-2013, 12:42 PM   #136 (permalink)
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No...fortunately, I been able to get at least a 5 mile test drive. The Z was the best test drive because they just gave me the keys. I had he Z a little over an hour.
Yeah it was the worst test drive I've ever gotten. I got a longer test drive of my Z when it was snowing
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:34 AM   #137 (permalink)
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I went to test drive an IS-F and the salesman kept asking me personal questions like how old I was, where I worked, what I planned to use the car for, etc. I was like wtf? stfu already
I went to the dealer in my Z...
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This is an isolated artice that popped up from autoguide. But it seems hyundai is considering a turbocharged version of the v6 in the future for a higher end genesis coupe?

Sounds like it may possibly be an IPL fighter... Considering the next generation IPL will be turbocharged and cost a bit more than a GTR. This gives hyundai a chance to captitolize on the gencoupe legacy with a half price ipl/gtr competitor.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...tJWiv3h8_NoO_Q

At bargain pricing, I'd even have to consider a Genesis coupe Turbo 6. if it turns out to be 2/3 of a GTR at 50% of the price. It would be worth buying for sure
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Hyundai is just like Toyota in their market strategy. It will work.
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I went to test drive an IS-F and the salesman kept asking me personal questions like how old I was, where I worked, what I planned to use the car for, etc. I was like wtf? stfu already
I went to the dealer in my Z...
Most people don't buy it...
Z is 30-46k, the ISF starts at like 68k


I bought mine sight unseen, no test drive
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This is an isolated artice that popped up from autoguide. But it seems hyundai is considering a turbocharged version of the v6 in the future for a higher end genesis coupe?

Sounds like it may possibly be an IPL fighter... Considering the next generation IPL will be turbocharged and cost a bit more than a GTR. This gives hyundai a chance to captitolize on the gencoupe legacy with a half price ipl/gtr competitor.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...tJWiv3h8_NoO_Q

At bargain pricing, I'd even have to consider a Genesis coupe Turbo 6. if it turns out to be 2/3 of a GTR at 50% of the price. It would be worth buying for sure
Would be cool if they did it, although they've talked about shoehorning the v8 into the GenCoupe before and haven't done it yet.
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Would be cool if they did it, although they've talked about shoehorning the v8 into the GenCoupe before and haven't done it yet.
Yeah but in its current bodystyle it just wouldn't fit. Rhys Millen tried it all kinds of ways. He wound up making a few ultra limited MR versions with the v8, that cost $80k each. They had to omit the backseats to add the motor. Hyundai had no plans of getting into the MR business with the gencoupe chassis.
So, it would be common sense to go the next best route, Forced Induction.
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AFAIK from Hyundai's previous plans ,they never intended for the v8 to enter the gen coupe.

They did years back have a slight discussion about another sports car to compete with the likes of the vette that would house the v8's. but it wasnt the gen coupe.
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My heart was set on the Z for years, but I did not love it blindly.

Before I bought the Z, I cross shopped many cars - from domestic to imports and I gave the Gen 1 GenCoupe serious thought. At the time, I believe that the 3.8 Track Package was going for around 30k, which is definitely appealing when compared to a base Z since the Genesis came with nav, leather seats, sunroof, rear seats, a trunk, a relatively powerful engine, not bad looking (especially in black) and a very good warranty. But then the test drive came. The handling was ok, the power was decent - it didn't throw you back in the seat like the Z, but my biggest gripe was the gearbox. I think one magazine said it felt rubbery and I couldn't agree more. Ultimately the Gen 1 GenCoupe was an unrefined sports car, which is why I didn't bother buying it.

Like many people, my friends were dismissing all the positives of the car by saying it was just a Hyundai. I felt like that's not a good reason for discounting a car, but that's Hyundai brand recognition. Maybe Hyundai means cheap in Korean, but if it doesn't, that's what the general consensus is in the American market. I think that the Hyundai logo is what turns most people off because its like slapping a 99 cents tag on a premium product. If they rebadge the Gen Coupe with the Genesis logo, which is the first mod for most Gen Coupe owners, I feel like they can start to redefine what they stand for and appeal to a broader audience.

My Hyundai Experience:
Prior to the Z, I leased a Hyundai Tuscon Limited as my dd, which was perfect for what I needed it to do. It had plenty of room, handled well in the winter and was extremely reliable. The car virtually did not need any maintenance and never once hicupped, stalled or failed after 35k miles. After the lease expired, I returned the car back to the dealership. I personally did not mind owning the car, but I did not require an SUV. So based on my experience, I do not view Hyundai as cheap, but more as reliable.

One day Hyundai may be a serious contender in the affordable sports car market and maybe I'll own one in the distant future. I just don't like how the fascia's on Hyundai's all look alike (much like what Mistubishi did with the Evo X). Talk about having a hard time differentiating yourself from the cheaper, inferior models.
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My heart was set on the Z for years, but I did not love it blindly.

Before I bought the Z, I cross shopped many cars - from domestic to imports and I gave the Gen 1 GenCoupe serious thought. At the time, I believe that the 3.8 Track Package was going for around 30k, which is definitely appealing when compared to a base Z since the Genesis came with nav, leather seats, sunroof, rear seats, a trunk, a relatively powerful engine, not bad looking (especially in black) and a very good warranty. But then the test drive came. The handling was ok, the power was decent - it didn't throw you back in the seat like the Z, but my biggest gripe was the gearbox. I think one magazine said it felt rubbery and I couldn't agree more. Ultimately the Gen 1 GenCoupe was an unrefined sports car, which is why I didn't bother buying it.

Like many people, my friends were dismissing all the positives of the car by saying it was just a Hyundai. I felt like that's not a good reason for discounting a car, but that's Hyundai brand recognition. Maybe Hyundai means cheap in Korean, but if it doesn't, that's what the general consensus is in the American market. I think that the Hyundai logo is what turns most people off because its like slapping a 99 cents tag on a premium product. If they rebadge the Gen Coupe with the Genesis logo, which is the first mod for most Gen Coupe owners, I feel like they can start to redefine what they stand for and appeal to a broader audience.

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Prior to the Z, I leased a Hyundai Tuscon Limited as my dd, which was perfect for what I needed it to do. It had plenty of room, handled well in the winter and was extremely reliable. The car virtually did not need any maintenance and never once hicupped, stalled or failed after 35k miles. After the lease expired, I returned the car back to the dealership. I personally did not mind owning the car, but I did not require an SUV. So based on my experience, I do not view Hyundai as cheap, but more as reliable.

One day Hyundai may be a serious contender in the affordable sports car market and maybe I'll own one in the distant future. I just don't like how the fascia's on Hyundai's all look alike (much like what Mistubishi did with the Evo X). Talk about having a hard time differentiating yourself from the cheaper, inferior models.
I just gotta ask. How did you find handling just ok? I thought handling was fine. At least what you can accomplish on the street. I found steering response to be less communicative than the Z. I will agree that power came on too smoothly for a so-called "sport coupe". Especially the 2010/11 models. The ecu tuning on those were horrid for sport driving. Acceleration is fast in the gencoupe but you definitely dont feel the power when trying to.

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I just gotta ask. How did you find handling just ok? I thought handling was fine. At least what you can accomplish on the street. I found steering response to be less communicative with the Z. I will agree that power came on too smoothly for a so-called "sport coupe". Especially the 2010/11 models. The ecu tuning on those were horrid for sport driving. Acceleration is fast in the gencoupe but you definitely dont feel the power when trying to.
I guess it would have been helpful if I stated what my point of reference was. At the time, I had already test driven the Z and the Evo. So in the handling department, I didn't feel like Gen Coupe measured up to those two. The Z and the Evo just felt tighter.

But like you said, the handling was more than enough for the street. BUT, then we could argue that the power of a Sentra is also more than enough for the street
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I guess it would have been helpful if I stated what my point of reference was. At the time, I had already test driven the Z and the Evo. So in the handling department, I didn't feel like Gen Coupe measured up to those two. The Z and the Evo just felt tighter.

But like you said, the handling was more than enough for the street. BUT, then we could argue that the power of a Sentra is also more than enough for the street
I test drove the same cars. The Evo handling on streets was nuts. The speed in which i was able to take tight curves and highway donuts was unreal by comparison to the other two RWD cars. What sold me on staying with a Z was interior build quality and the tighter feel you mentioned. That tightness is usually inherent of a smaller 2 seat vehicle.
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I also felt that the handling on the Z was miles ahead of the GenCoupe I tested. Just tighter. The suspension struck me as better on bumps, too, and I tested a Genesis Coupe Track. Both felt equally stiff, but the Z took a bump better.

Now, this was 2010, and the Genesis has most likely improved since its first model year.
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I also felt that the handling on the Z was miles ahead of the GenCoupe I tested. Just tighter. The suspension struck me as better on bumps, too, and I tested a Genesis Coupe Track. Both felt equally stiff, but the Z took a bump better.

Now, this was 2010, and the Genesis has most likely improved since its first model year.
I agree with that.


I was on the other lightning lap thread and im quoting what i said there cuz it pertains to this thread...

"Anyone notice the 3.13.8 for the gencoupe R-spec & 3.17.5 for the infiniti Gcoupe sport??? Not Good"

This is where my thoughts that the gencoupe is slept on comes from. It's performance is good. Having owned the G-37s for a year and having had extensive test drives in the gencoupe. I found I was getting in and out of turns faster than in the G. The G feels a little better doing it. But the Gencoupe accelerator seemed to sprint faster out of a turn. I measure cars on how quickly i can make transistions. The gencoupe seemed to come out of turns better. (maybe it just complimented my driving style more?)

I feel most comfortable driving the Z between the 3. The Z is just dialed in perfectly for my Driving style (with VDC off). But the Z is NOT a competitor in this segment.

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