Nissan 370Z Forum  

The car most enthusiasts still sleep on

What does stateside have to do with nissans history? It doesn't matter if nothing was here. They still engineered these. They had the Silvia, Silvia R, pulsar Gti R, gtr,

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z General Area > The Lounge (Off Topic) > Other Vehicles


Like Tree74Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-29-2012, 12:37 PM   #61 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 850
Drives: 2012 370Z TRNG SPRT
Rep Power: 17
FairladyZ is on a distinguished road
Default

What does stateside have to do with nissans history?

It doesn't matter if nothing was here. They still engineered these.

They had the Silvia, Silvia R, pulsar Gti R, gtr, 300zx, and other cars, i think they know wtf they are doing when it comes to sports cars.

Hyundai though has a gen coupe with 348 Hp oh damn!!!!
FairladyZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2012, 12:48 PM   #62 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Cypress
Posts: 277
Drives: 2011 Nismo #4 MB
Rep Power: 13
Compdoc777 is on a distinguished road
Default

I rarely see genesis coupes around. I did for a while in 2008. I had a few friends that said they were the best since baked beans and could eat my Saturn Sky for lunch. Most ate crow and sold the within the year. Now it has been almost a year since I have seen a genesis coupe in traffic and I live in Houston. I see way more Z's than I see hyundai cars.

Heck even my dad bought new hyundai in 2011 and within six months he was driving a new Nissan Altima. He said hyundai was crap.
Compdoc777 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2012, 12:53 PM   #63 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 850
Drives: 2012 370Z TRNG SPRT
Rep Power: 17
FairladyZ is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Compdoc777 View Post
I rarely see genesis coupes around. I did for a while in 2008. I had a few friends that said they were the best since baked beans and could eat my Saturn Sky for lunch. Most ate crow and sold the within the year. Now it has been almost a year since I have seen a genesis coupe in traffic and I live in Houston. I see way more Z's than I see hyundai cars.

Heck even my dad bought new hyundai in 2011 and within six months he was driving a new Nissan Altima. He said hyundai was crap.

Yo but its gonna have 400 Hp and 350 tq soon, so we know its gonna be bad *** man. Lol
Compdoc777 likes this.

Last edited by FairladyZ; 12-29-2012 at 12:56 PM.
FairladyZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2012, 01:16 PM   #64 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
zguynate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Strangeland
Posts: 1,054
Drives: 09 370z
Rep Power: 73
zguynate has a reputation beyond reputezguynate has a reputation beyond reputezguynate has a reputation beyond reputezguynate has a reputation beyond reputezguynate has a reputation beyond reputezguynate has a reputation beyond reputezguynate has a reputation beyond reputezguynate has a reputation beyond reputezguynate has a reputation beyond reputezguynate has a reputation beyond reputezguynate has a reputation beyond repute
Default

The Gen Coupe may not be at the top of the list, but like I said before, Hyundai is stepping up and definitely did a good job at their first sports car entry. The interior is cheap because the 3.8 r spec is priced a good 4k under the base 370z. Sure they need some more refining, it's rare that someone gets it perfect the first time.

To be fair, at the "spend my thousands wisely" statement, I have had issues with the steering lock and CSC on the Z with 28k miles. The Genesis has been problem free for me for 30k miles. Don't take that the wrong way, I love my Z to death! The Z is still the better car, but the Z is far from perfect as well.

If the Genesis Coupe, sitting as is, had another company's badge on it, it would receive more praise than it does. But because its a Hyundai, it still has a negative stigma that people refuse to get over.
UNKNOWN_370 likes this.
__________________
2009 370z touring w/sports package
zguynate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2012, 01:23 PM   #65 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 850
Drives: 2012 370Z TRNG SPRT
Rep Power: 17
FairladyZ is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonbreath View Post
The Gen Coupe may not be at the top of the list, but like I said before, Hyundai is stepping up and definitely did a good job at their first sports car entry. The interior is cheap because the 3.8 r spec is priced a good 4k under the base 370z. Sure they need some more refining, it's rare that someone gets it perfect the first time.

To be fair, at the "spend my thousands wisely" statement, I have had issues with the steering lock and CSC on the Z with 28k miles. The Genesis has been problem free for me for 30k miles. Don't take that the wrong way, I love my Z to death! The Z is still the better car, but the Z is far from perfect as well.

If the Genesis Coupe, sitting as is, had another company's badge on it, it would receive more praise than it does. But because its a Hyundai, it still has a negative stigma that people refuse to get over.

I just went on the website, the 3.8 track model is close to 34k

That isn't much far behind a z, sti, evo, Camaro, mustang.
FairladyZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2012, 01:36 PM   #66 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Red__Zed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: window seat
Posts: 28,940
Drives: Mostly on two wheels
Rep Power: 120
Red__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FairladyZ View Post
What does stateside have to do with nissans history?

It doesn't matter if nothing was here. They still engineered these.

They had the Silvia, Silvia R, pulsar Gti R, gtr, 300zx, and other cars, i think they know wtf they are doing when it comes to sports cars.

Hyundai though has a gen coupe with 348 Hp oh damn!!!!
You mean the vehicles that came out 50 years after they started making cars?
Red__Zed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2012, 01:42 PM   #67 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 850
Drives: 2012 370Z TRNG SPRT
Rep Power: 17
FairladyZ is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red__Zed View Post
You mean the vehicles that came out 50 years after they started making cars?

My point exactly...... It takes time, and they proved themselves

What's your argument? Hyundai gen came out yesterday?
FairladyZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2012, 01:45 PM   #68 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
b1adesofcha0s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: MD
Posts: 40,963
Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo!
Rep Power: 141
b1adesofcha0s has a reputation beyond reputeb1adesofcha0s has a reputation beyond reputeb1adesofcha0s has a reputation beyond reputeb1adesofcha0s has a reputation beyond reputeb1adesofcha0s has a reputation beyond reputeb1adesofcha0s has a reputation beyond reputeb1adesofcha0s has a reputation beyond reputeb1adesofcha0s has a reputation beyond reputeb1adesofcha0s has a reputation beyond reputeb1adesofcha0s has a reputation beyond reputeb1adesofcha0s has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I mean look how much Ford improved their quality in the last like 2-3 years. I know they were an already established brand, but they improved the quality of their cars greatly in the past couple years.
b1adesofcha0s is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2012, 01:48 PM   #69 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Red__Zed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: window seat
Posts: 28,940
Drives: Mostly on two wheels
Rep Power: 120
Red__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond repute
Default



Quote:
Originally Posted by FairladyZ View Post
My point exactly...... It takes time, and they proved themselves

What's your argument? Hyundai gen came out yesterday?
My point is that posts like the one below:


Quote:
Originally Posted by FairladyZ View Post
I will never buy a car with a crooked H.

Ever.


Ever. I don't care how much performance it's bringing lol
Are fairly similar to the comments from ford/chevy nuts back when nissan was up and coming.


In fact, I clearly said that, way back here:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red__Zed View Post
Comments like this remind me how much the current crop of import lovers are exactly like the old, closed-minded domestic enthusiasts.

Refusing to buy a good car because of the brand is something for soccer moms, not enthusiasts.
b1adesofcha0s likes this.
Red__Zed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2012, 01:49 PM   #70 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 850
Drives: 2012 370Z TRNG SPRT
Rep Power: 17
FairladyZ is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red__Zed View Post



My point is that posts like the one below:




Are fairly similar to the comments from ford/chevy nuts back when nissan was up and coming.

Exactly then they proved themselves over time.
FairladyZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2012, 01:50 PM   #71 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
zguynate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Strangeland
Posts: 1,054
Drives: 09 370z
Rep Power: 73
zguynate has a reputation beyond reputezguynate has a reputation beyond reputezguynate has a reputation beyond reputezguynate has a reputation beyond reputezguynate has a reputation beyond reputezguynate has a reputation beyond reputezguynate has a reputation beyond reputezguynate has a reputation beyond reputezguynate has a reputation beyond reputezguynate has a reputation beyond reputezguynate has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FairladyZ View Post
I just went on the website, the 3.8 track model is close to 34k

That isn't much far behind a z, sti, evo, Camaro, mustang.
The track model is the "fully loaded" lol. Youre comparing that to the price of a base Z. Thats apples to oranges.

Genesis Coupe 3.8 R-Spec:
MSRP $28750
348hp/295tq
19 inch alloy wheels
Torsen LSD
Brembo Brakes

370Z base with sport:
MSRP $36150
336hp/260tq
19 inch Rays (Awesome)
LSD
Akebono's
Synchro rev

Thats a little over 7k difference if you compare apples to apples. There is a reason why the wheels arent forged, and the interior isnt quite as nice. As far as the actual performance of the cars, the 370z has almost 40 years of experience behind its engineering. The Genesis is Hyundais first real sports car, they have some bugs to work out.

The 370z really isnt a competitor anyhow, just using it as comparison.

Hyundai is in the process of proving themselves atm imo.
UNKNOWN_370 likes this.
__________________
2009 370z touring w/sports package
zguynate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2012, 01:53 PM   #72 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Cypress
Posts: 277
Drives: 2011 Nismo #4 MB
Rep Power: 13
Compdoc777 is on a distinguished road
Default

370z not even the Nismo. Best comparison to the Gensis coupe.

The car's performance potential was further confirmed at the track, with the Z posting a more than respectable 4.8-second 0-60 mph time, and completing the quarter-mile in 13.4 seconds at 105.6 mph. That's faster than the 2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 we recently tested, which posted a 5.2-second 0-60 and a 13.9-second quarter-mile at 102.2 mph. The Nissan required 106 feet to brake from 60-0 mph, and averaged an impressive 0.99 g in lateral acceleration, beating out the heavier, track pack-equipped 2013 Mustang V-6 Premium's 60-0 stopping performance of 110 feet and a skidpad average of 0.95 g. With its figure-eight result of 25.1 seconds at an average 0.74 g, the Z proved it's still an agile handler.

Read more: 2012 Nissan 370Z First Drive - Motor Trend
Compdoc777 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2012, 01:53 PM   #73 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 850
Drives: 2012 370Z TRNG SPRT
Rep Power: 17
FairladyZ is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonbreath View Post
The track model is the "fully loaded" lol. Youre comparing that to the price of a base Z. Thats apples to oranges.

Genesis Coupe 3.8 R-Spec:
MSRP $28750
348hp/295tq
19 inch alloy wheels
Torsen LSD
Brembo Brakes

370Z base with sport:
MSRP $36150
336hp/260tq
19 inch Rays (Awesome)
LSD
Akebono's
Synchro rev

Thats a little over 7k difference if you compare apples to apples. There is a reason why the wheels arent forged, and the interior isnt quite as nice. As far as the actual performance of the cars, the 370z has almost 40 years of experience behind its engineering. The Genesis is Hyundais first real sports car, they have some bugs to work out.

The 370z really isnt a competitor anyhow, just using it as comparison.

Hyundai is in the process of proving themselves atm imo.

You guys keep restating what I'm saying


They are the new kids on the block, it takes time to sway people's mind. Doesn't happen over night, all my posts have been trying to convey this yet you don't understand.

Nissan has history, subaru has history, honda has history, mitsubishi has history, Toyota has history, ford and Chevy has history, is that **** hard to understand??

Feel free to hop on board, cause I won't any time soon lol

Last edited by FairladyZ; 12-29-2012 at 01:59 PM.
FairladyZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2012, 02:04 PM   #74 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Red__Zed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: window seat
Posts: 28,940
Drives: Mostly on two wheels
Rep Power: 120
Red__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FairladyZ View Post
My point exactly...... It takes time, and they proved themselves

What's your argument? Hyundai gen came out yesterday?
Quote:
Originally Posted by FairladyZ View Post
Exactly then they proved themselves over time.
Quote:
Originally Posted by FairladyZ View Post
You guys keep restating what I'm saying


They are the new kids on the block, it takes time to sway people's mind. Doesn't happen over night, all my posts have been trying to convey this yet you don't understand.

Nissan has history, subaru has history, honda has history, mitsubishi has history, Toyota has history, ford and Chevy has history, is that **** hard to understand??

Feel free to hop on board, cause I won't any time soon lol

Yes, this sounds like "they're the new kids on the block, let's see if they prove themselves"
Quote:
Originally Posted by FairladyZ View Post
I will never buy a car with a crooked H.

Ever.


Ever. I don't care how much performance it's bringing lol
Red__Zed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2012, 02:07 PM   #75 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 850
Drives: 2012 370Z TRNG SPRT
Rep Power: 17
FairladyZ is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red__Zed View Post
Yes, this sounds like "they're the new kids on the block, let's see if they prove themselves"

Yeah that's my personal decision, I won't ever buy one, let me state that again and again

Ever

But to the rest of the people, they need to prove themselves.

But red_zed I'd say you buy one now cause it has 348 Hp man
FairladyZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
If it weren't so cold, I'd sleep in my Z OhMyZ! New 370Z Owner 7 01-23-2011 12:15 PM
ZOMG! One more sleep! prichardson New 370Z Owner 36 06-18-2010 11:08 AM
I can not sleep! bigaudiofanat The Lounge (Off Topic) 55 01-28-2010 07:30 AM
Omg...at last. Starting to lose sleep. tbonesteak Nissan 370Z General Discussions 20 07-20-2009 11:25 PM
It has arrived...how can i sleep? ZEDHEAD Canada 6 04-16-2009 07:16 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:40 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2