So 2600 dollars in mods for an FRS gets you

Japanjay

It is not always about total WHP to make you fast. This is a NA 4 banger that smokes the fastest recorded 370z on this site, and they are squeezing 396whp out of it. Says alot about the lack of developement put into our VQ.....

Jake & Joel Sipes’ NA K Powered HB | SpeedFactory Racing Tuning & Fabrication

red6spd

Kind of stupid to compare the two. That Civic was built for one thing only drag racing. The TT and SC Z's on this site still stop and handle for well.

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Iceagetlc

Why haven't you sold your Z and bought a civic/fr-s yet?

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UNKNOWN_370

Honestly, I havent seen a Z with that much work in it. People either go with suspension, basic breathing mods & tune. Turbo, exhaust & tune. I don't see to many people going through extensive forgings and overhauls of the VQHR.

There's still a big gap & mystery as to what the VQ can really do. Everything is so fu**in expensive for the Z that you can buy 4 Z's if you pay the amount of money necessary to mod the Z properly.
As much as I love this car, non-F.I. 4 and 6 engines are pretty useless when you want to extract power. NA v8 is the best way to go if you expect big gains with breathing mods. Other than that. V6's and four bangers is a money pit of useless power gains without FI.

The best the FR-S is going to get on breathers n a tune is 14.5 second quarters if lucky. The best the Z will do is 12.6 if lucky? V8's you can see low 12, high 11 on breathing mods alone.
That said... I'm definitely going back to a turbo vehicle soon. I miss my FD.

Japanjay

This I 100% agree with.

This I do not. There is so much more than WHP number to be fast whether it is a Strip or a RR. That is unless you are trying to win at a DYNO Comp.

For any application outside of a DYNO Comp you car needs to dialed in weight, tires, suspension, WHP/TQ. WHP/TQ alone will not make you go fast in a straight line or in a curve.

Just my .02

Example (230HP FWD vs 488HP AWD) Think what that little hatch Type-R would do with around 300hpNA which is SOOOO easy to achieve for what every brether mod for a 370z is going to run you. That thing didnt even have a K24 bottom end nor a really built head. Both not that exspensive to build.

Battle Honda Civic TypeR EP3 x Nissan GT-R ... Nürburgring Nordschleife BTG 24-07-2010 - YouTube

UNKNOWN_370

I feel what you're saying jay... but I really was talking about this FR-S and the RWD scene. Honda n/a K motors are a whole other animal.

Japanjay

Very true. I am still curious what can be done NA with this frs for it to become a track monster. Put it on a fat kid diet and run some ITB's and serious cams, springs, retainers, valves, PnP. I think on fat kid diet and a driver in the 175lb area this car should weigh in sub 2.4k lbs. I got money on these cars clipping off 1/4 mile times NA, faster than any Z on here in no more than a year.

Hardest part for Hondas with the K is once going boost and doing multiple lap sessions you are really trying to fight heat soak. It can take a car down. Boosting one is great for a strip or time attack, but NA for a K taking on lapping sessions is where it is at and it in a car sub 2k lbs 300whp is dirty, you are running in supercar territory lap time wise.

Over half the battle in building a fast track car is the weight.