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gsxr750 11-13-2012 03:46 PM

Police Vehicle Testing
 
Heres's a link to some of the latest testing for police vehicles, cars and motorcyles.

MSP - Police Vehicle Evaluation

B&W_Evader 11-13-2012 04:09 PM

Thier biggest weapon is still their radio and the shear number of them out there.

30 second rule still applies. If you can't ditch em, park it, and get away from the vehicle in under 30 seconds, don't even try.

BTW, evading is a felony in CA, better to just take the ticket.

MarkGideon 11-13-2012 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B&W_Evader (Post 2014470)
Thier biggest weapon is still their radio

:iagree:

No matter how fast your car, you cannot outrun Motorola.

nmjaxx9 11-13-2012 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B&W_Evader (Post 2014470)
Thier biggest weapon is still their radio and the shear number of them out there.

30 second rule still applies. If you can't ditch em, park it, and get away from the vehicle in under 30 seconds, don't even try.

BTW, evading is a felony in CA, better to just take the ticket.

id get away in 30 seconds. :stirthepot::stirthepot::D (not that i recommend it :tup:)

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkGideon (Post 2014761)
:iagree:

No matter how fast your car, you cannot outrun Motorola.

this statement is truuuuu :driving:

Hotrodz 11-13-2012 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B&W_Evader (Post 2014470)
Thier biggest weapon is still their radio and the shear number of them out there.

30 second rule still applies. If you can't ditch em, park it, and get away from the vehicle in under 30 seconds, don't even try.

BTW, evading is a felony in CA, better to just take the ticket.

Hate to be a joy kill but running from the cops, or felony flight is serious business in all States...do not pass go, do not collect $200 and go straight to jail. It's just not smart, it puts you, others and the pursuing cop at risk. If you play, then its just best to pay if you get caught.:shakes head:

gsxr750 11-13-2012 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 2014896)
Hate to be a joy kill but running from the cops, or felony flight is serious business in all States...do not pass go, do not collect $200 and go straight to jail. It's just not smart, it puts you, others and the pursuing cop at risk. If you play, then its just best to pay if you get caught.:shakes head:

Let me guess ! are you a cop or family member is a cop ?

frost 11-13-2012 10:15 PM

I'll take this moment to remind everyone that forum rules do not permit bashing of law enforcement.
While people may have personal experiences, on a whole, they do a hard job for not a ton of money.

6MT 11-13-2012 10:22 PM

Amen!

Trips 11-13-2012 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frost (Post 2015084)
I'll take this moment to remind everyone that forum rules do not permit bashing of law enforcement.
While people may have personal experiences, on a whole, they do a hard job for not a ton of money.

:iagree:

Rooster89 11-13-2012 10:41 PM

Truth! ....firefighters too.

Chuck33079 11-14-2012 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 2014896)
Hate to be a joy kill but running from the cops, or felony flight is serious business in all States...do not pass go, do not collect $200 and go straight to jail. It's just not smart, it puts you, others and the pursuing cop at risk. If you play, then its just best to pay if you get caught.:shakes head:

Plus, you can almost guarantee you'll be on the receiving end of a solid beating when they catch you. To quote Chris Rock, "If they have to run, they're bringing an ***-kicking with them."

Tazicon 11-14-2012 08:56 AM

How did a thread on police vehicle testing become a thread on salaries?

Anyway it at times surprises me how slow the police vehicles are. I know they used to have some nice "Interceptors" but I really don't see those as much any more. To officers out there, what kind of things do you want in a police car. I imgine top speed is not of concern, maybe handling? interior comfort? What would you like in a "dream" car for daily street use on the job?

Yes the radios will always win!!!!!!!!

Hotrodz 11-14-2012 09:14 AM

Yup, was in law enforcement for better than 20 years. Don't see that it matters when it comes to safety. We are all enthusiast and speed freaks. We like the freedom, the rush of going fast, me included. All I'm sayin is if you want to put your own self at risk by driving on the ragged edge, sweet (I wouldn't have gottin a Z if I wanted to drive Mrs. Daisy) just don't involve others needlessly.

madwi 11-14-2012 09:27 AM

Eh, it's MSP they already don't care if you drive 80-85 mph (10-15 over the limit).I dont need to go faster than that with the amount of idiots on the road. plus, when I have been pulled over by them, they have been very professional and reasonable to me. The big gumball machine (light) they put on top of the cars has to slow em down with the extra drag :)

onzedge 11-14-2012 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frost (Post 2015084)
I'll take this moment to remind everyone that forum rules do not permit bashing of law enforcement.
While people may have personal experiences, on a whole, they do a hard job for not a ton of money.

:iagree: :tup:

frost 11-14-2012 10:55 AM

I cleaned this thread up because it's not a thread about police salaries.

gsxr750 11-14-2012 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frost (Post 2015728)
I cleaned this thread up because it's not a thread about police salaries.

Since you found it fair to censor any reference to police salary, then its only fair to for you to also censor any reference beyond the original intent of the OP, which is police vehicles vs. the 370Z

To place any individual at higher level than the average man, due to occupation is openly wrong. There are a lot of more hazardous jobs than police or firemen, Any of us could drop dead any day at work, its life. If you did a search at how many ppl die a day at work from simple accidental work place accidents in general each day, I'm sure it would be higher than the single group of police deaths for that given day.

So lets be fair to all specially when censorship is being applied.

Here are the facts in the year 2000, 5915 on the job deaths, of which are 142 police and 43
firemen.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa082401a.htm

onzedge 11-14-2012 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frost (Post 2015728)
I cleaned this thread up because it's not a thread about police salaries.

:tup:

Cmike2780 11-14-2012 12:08 PM

Interesting. I thought the cop cars would be faster. In any case, it doesn't matter if you're driving a Z...or a GT-R for that matter, you're not going to outrun a helicopter.

Chteelers 11-14-2012 01:17 PM

I've evaded twice (successfully), but it only worked because 1 cop had to u-turn and 1 cop had to enter the highway after radaring from a overpass. And there happened to be a convenient turnoff in both cases, where I was able to make several quick direction changes. Didn't really 'run' in the sense that I didn't speed up or break any traffic laws, just made a bunch of direction changes before the cop could catch up.

gsxr750 11-14-2012 01:32 PM

The best method is just to do a few legal moves and leave the car if the cop can't find car its no real crime or laws broken.

About 20yrs. ago I was driving thru a mall and did a few rolling stops at the mall's stop signs. I seen a sheriff might be coming after me so I decided it was time to get a car wash around the corner.

I was driving a 80's brown chevy 4x4, with my 75yr. old mom , after about 10 minutes at the car wash we passed the sheriff at the local super market checking the hoods of chevy trucks parked their for heat coming off them. It shows you the extent some will go to try and nail you. The thing is that it really made my moms day and mine for a laugh !!!

onzedge 11-14-2012 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chteelers (Post 2015991)
I've evaded twice (successfully), but it only worked because 1 cop had to u-turn and 1 cop had to enter the highway after radaring from a overpass. And there happened to be a convenient turnoff in both cases, where I was able to make several quick direction changes. Didn't really 'run' in the sense that I didn't speed up or break any traffic laws, just made a bunch of direction changes before the cop could catch up.

This is genius-level posting from a person who did not read (or ignored) the clealy-written forum rules.

gsxr750 11-14-2012 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 2015911)
Interesting. I thought the cop cars would be faster. In any case, it doesn't matter if you're driving a Z...or a GT-R for that matter, you're not going to outrun a helicopter.

Look for police pursuits on youtube helicopter vs motorcycle and the bike won, if your on a hayabusa or zx14r, most copters are limited to around 120-140 mph you really need one of the high end or performance copters to exceed the speed of a superbike or exotic sports car.

onzedge 11-14-2012 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsxr750 (Post 2016017)
The best method is just to do a few legal moves and leave the car if the cop can't find car its no real crime or laws broken.

About 20yrs. ago I was driving thru a mall and did a few rolling stops at the mall's stop signs. I seen a sheriff might be coming after me so I decided it was time to get a car wash around the corner.

I was driving a 80's brown chevy 4x4, with my 75yr. old mom , after about 10 minutes at the car wash we passed the sheriff at the local super market checking the hoods of chevy trucks parked their for heat coming off them. It shows you the extent some will go to try and nail you. The thing is that it really made my moms day and mine for a laugh !!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsxr750 (Post 2016027)
Look for police pursuits on youtube helicopter vs motorcycle and the bike won, if your on a hayabusa or zx14r, most copters are limited to around 120-140 mph you really need one of the high end or performance copters to exceed the speed of a superbike or exotic sports car.

What is wrong with you guys?

dastaco 11-14-2012 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chteelers (Post 2015991)
I've evaded twice (successfully), but it only worked because 1 cop had to u-turn and 1 cop had to enter the highway after radaring from a overpass. And there happened to be a convenient turnoff in both cases, where I was able to make several quick direction changes. Didn't really 'run' in the sense that I didn't speed up or break any traffic laws, just made a bunch of direction changes before the cop could catch up.

One time I ran from the police in my gt500. They had me pinned in on a bridge because of a big car wreck. I lit up the tires and ramped the car over the wreck, got away clean.

Guess it wasn't running from the police so much as driving fast away from the cops, going airborne, then driving fast some more.

http://needcoffee.cachefly.net/needc...60-seconds.jpg

gsxr750 11-14-2012 01:53 PM

We are not advising running from police, but you are only required to stop , when they signal you to pull over.

We are discussing the performance of police vehicles vs, the 370Z potential.

Basically only the police helicopter or camaro or mustang comes close and the Charger, BMW or Kawasaki.

my2004Z 11-14-2012 01:53 PM

I have seen a few documentaries about police cars and what the various law enforcement agencies look for in a car. From what I can remember, their main concerns are that they can carry around all of their gear while managing to keep sight of the offender and their cars do not fail. Most passenger vehicles will quickly fail if driven to the limit on public roads due to pot holes, speed bumps, debris, curbs etc. So as long as the cops have radios and slightly more rugged vehicles then they have a better chance of outlasting the offenders during high speed chases. Some of those cars that were tested are very respectable given the extra weight of the cars.

my2004Z 11-14-2012 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dastaco (Post 2016037)
One time I ran from the police in my gt500. They had me pinned in on a bridge because of a big car wreck. I lit up the tires and ramped the car over the wreck, got away clean.

Guess it wasn't running from the police so much as driving fast away from the cops, going airborne, then driving fast some more.

http://needcoffee.cachefly.net/needc...60-seconds.jpg

You forgot to tell them about outrunning the helicopter because it wasn't an Apache... :icon18:

gsxr750 11-14-2012 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my2004Z (Post 2016059)
You forgot to tell them about outrunning the helicopter because it wasn't an Apache... :icon18:

What is the top speed of a police helicopter? | ChaCha

Its only the high end or performance military attack helicopters that have the high speed. Most commercial helicopters are not as fast ppl believe.

Where the copters have the real advantage is altitude and ability to take a direct line of flight and keep a ground vehicle in sight, and the ground vehicle is limited by the lengthy roads.

B&W_Evader 11-14-2012 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frost (Post 2015084)
I'll take this moment to remind everyone that forum rules do not permit bashing of law enforcement.
While people may have personal experiences, on a whole, they do a hard job for not a ton of money.

If your going to take away the truth about thier salaries, you should remove this piece of propaganda as well. :shakes head:

gsxr750 11-14-2012 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B&W_Evader (Post 2016201)
If your going to take away the truth about thier salaries, you should remove this piece of propaganda as well. :shakes head:

Just for ***** and giggles the salary range is $50K- $120k with OT, 20yr. retirement 50% highest last yrs average pay and 30yr. 75-80 % last yrs average pay and fully paid health care, far better than the common man.

Alchemy 11-14-2012 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frost (Post 2015084)
I'll take this moment to remind everyone that forum rules do not permit bashing of law enforcement.
While people may have personal experiences, on a whole, they do a hard job for not a ton of money.

But Frost, even you yourself claims to be a "bad cop" :icon17:

frost 11-14-2012 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsxr750 (Post 2015863)
Since you found it fair to censor any reference to police salary, then its only fair to for you to also censor any reference beyond the original intent of the OP, which is police vehicles vs. the 370Z

To place any individual at higher level than the average man, due to occupation is openly wrong. There are a lot of more hazardous jobs than police or firemen, Any of us could drop dead any day at work, its life. If you did a search at how many ppl die a day at work from simple accidental work place accidents in general each day, I'm sure it would be higher than the single group of police deaths for that given day.

So lets be fair to all specially when censorship is being applied.

Here are the facts in the year 2000, 5915 on the job deaths, of which are 142 police and 43
firemen.
Deaths On-the-Job

Quote:

Originally Posted by B&W_Evader (Post 2016201)
If your going to take away the truth about thier salaries, you should remove this piece of propaganda as well. :shakes head:

There are several off topic chat threads you two can discuss law enforcement salaries until you're blue in the face. What you see as "censorship" is just keeping the thread on topic about the police cruiser. The next person to troll post is going to earn some time off the forum.

nmjaxx9 11-14-2012 03:21 PM

:wtf2: damm this thread went completely the opposite of where I thought it was gonna go since I last checked in.

Look, I said what I said based on something that happened when I was prompted to pull over. Being that I was (and am now) coming under a suspended license and other charges that were racked up on my record, I had no choice but to run or get my Z towed and be put behind bars. Yes, it wasn't the smartest decsion, and by no means do I advocate or propose running from a cop. What I did do though was under full knowledge to myself of what I was doing and I was not under the influence, and luckily, just luckily got away. Running away isnt that easy nor "cool" as chalked up to be in movies and in chitter chat.

So yeah, thats it, if that initial post offended anyone....well sorry you got offended. Plus I think cops are cool, they are afterall doing their job if it werent for them, there would be no "bad" guy to blame. :icon17::tup::driving:

Happy driving everyone. :tup:

onzedge 11-14-2012 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frost (Post 2016214)
There are several off topic chat threads you two can discuss law enforcement salaries until you're blue in the face. What you see as "censorship" is just keeping the thread on topic about the police cruiser. The next person to troll post is going to earn some time off the forum.

Hello, Mr. Frost!!! Thanks for your excellent moderation in this thread.

b1adesofcha0s 11-14-2012 03:48 PM

I've evaded many police pursuits in my lifetime, even those with a 6 star wanted level :icon17:

ImportConvert 11-14-2012 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsxr750 (Post 2015065)
Let me guess ! are you a cop or family member is a cop ?

Doubt it, it's just damn good advise. A ticket is pretty cheap and driving school, if you even have to do that to keep it off the record, is $50 or so.

I shot a 3-day carbine course with some SWAT and Narcotics officers as well as other LE/Gov types this weekend, and not all cops are "uncool" and "us vs. them".

That being said, regardless of the officer, that radio is going to own anything on 2 or four wheels, their vehicles are basically mobile desks/equipment lockers, not "pursuit vehicles".

The reason they have cars like the Charger, etc. is so that they can gun it onto a busy freeway to catch vehicles of interest without having to wait for a gap in traffic a mile long or putting you and I at more risk than necessary to merge off of the shoulder, not so they can play Fast and Furious with sports cars.


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