Nissan blew it with me

Inspector71

Agree. Your Armada is a vehicle I'd love to have and I like yours. The cost differential is what scares me away. How'd you get 10K off? Again, you have the best looking SUV I've seen.

Inspector71

At my age? I'm not dead yet but something got lost in the translation. I could care less whether or not chicks like my car or truck. That has nothing to do with my car buying choice. What I was commenting on is the trend in auto manufacture to chickify cars/trucks which I suspect explains why so many men are buying pick ups now days. Yes, I undertand the economics behind it. Women want a vehicle that sits up higher and they feel safer in. Their buying power causes manufacturers to produce a "softy" type vehicle that looks like an SUV but appeals to the feminine buyer and those of us who want something rugged, plain, and simple, lose out again. What can be done? Some great posts have given me ideas as to my next SUV. I once saw an automatic transmission in a Z at my Nissan dealer. An automatic! He said a woman bought it.

Inspector71

Did you read my post? It was about the chickification of the Suv. Its not that they went to the uni-body, which all Chryslers have had for years, its the rounded design and comfort features. Have you sat in a Pathfinder and an Armada? If you had, you would know that one is substantially larger and one substantially more expensive. Let me make it clear for you, I like the Armada even though it is bigger than I need, the Xterra is too short for my hunting camping trips, and the Armada too expensive. That left the Pathfinder perfectly in the middle. Not hard to understand at all.

Inspector71

You didn't read my post or you have an agenda. I never said an uni-body makes a vehicle a chick car else my 68 Charger and 68 Barracudas would be chick cars. It has to do with the trend in the automtive industry to take a good truck/suv and then woos it out with all sorts of changes that appeal to women. Oops, did I step on some toes?

cossie1600

Paris Hilton has a McLaren and a SLR, does that make those chick cars?

UNKNOWN_370

The only chick car i know of is that pink Mary Kay car.

Cmike2780

Lol, inform the women that shouldn't be allowed to vote while your at it. You're like an old sexist grandpa with all these "chick-" references. All I'm saying is that your views are outdated and I disagree. I have nothing personal against you.

Complaining about heated seats is like complaining about too many channels on TV or how an iPhone/iPad needs real buttons. If you don't want the seats heated...turn it off. If you think the design is too "girly", don't buy it, buy an old car that requires you to crank handle to start it like a real man. Better yet, buy a horse and ride it into town. It's that simple.



I disagree with your views, just leave it at that and move on.

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cossie1600

I think Kim k has a pink Lambo? I think they have it to flash us he vah j j

Inspector71

I'm curious, are you able to read and follow the crux of an argument? The lament I posted, and at this time the exercise begins to resemble talking with teenagers,, i.e., instructions must be repeated over and over until they get it, auto-industry experts have been reporting, long before I came along, the chickification of SUVs and so forth that once appealed primarily to men. Certainly responding to market forces cannot be avoided but those of us who wish our vehicles weren't chickified are not out of line for lamenting these changes.

Cmike2780

Please stop using "chickification" as a scientific term.

...and for god's sake, someone teach this guy how the quote button works.

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Inspector71

By all means, express yourself. I find it rather amusing that you have designated yourself the arbiter of what is or is not outdated. Interesting, anyone with views different from yours is old and outdated. Afraid to use the work "chick?" You sound like the metrosexual males I used to encounter in the Bay area of California. How trendy you are. I notice that you made a jump to a political statement tying a lament about the chickification of cars to claiming I don't support the right of women to vote. You forgot to add that I'm a racist, bigot, homophobe, and, God forbid, probably not a liberal either. I notice in your posts you also jumped to defensive sarcasm about not being a real man. Hmm. I didn't say anything about that. Seems to me a case of projection on your part. Perhaps you need to deal with those issues seated comfortably in your heated seats dining on quiche.

Cmike2780

No problem with the word "chick", just your 1920's rhetoric. I'm not even going to guess why you have metrosexual male encounters in the Bay area of California.

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Inspector71

My use of the term chick is not from the 20s. History a tough subject for you? Judging by your concern with political correctness, I have no doubts you wouldn't need anyone explaining metrosexual to you at all.

cossie1600

I completely understand what you are complaining about and in some small ways I agree with you. At the same time, you just come across as someone who is extremely offensive, ignorant and narcissistic. Just because the general public doesn't agree with you, it makes everyone a girl or a puss? Based on the sales numbers from the SUV world, maybe you should realize you are in the minority, male or female. Most people want SUV that is safe, comfortable and efficient. Most of the offroading SUVs get now are at the local strip mall or on their own lawn. If you don't like where the industry is going, go design your own car. Or you can always get a diesel truck and put two giant exhaust pipes out the truck bed. I am sure you will look tough and gain plenty of attention.......from guys.

What else are you going to blame women? Unemployment? Illegal immigration? Economy? Middle East? Also are you going to call all the VDC users a puss too? How about people wearing seatbelts?

Inspector71

In my years I have found that people who jump to conclusions about others they don't know, in this case, you, often, not always but often project their own personality characteristics onto others. To wit, the majority of posters here, including the pms I received, suggested alternatives to the Pathfinder, understood the humor, and were no way offended. This is what leads people like you to misread my intent and jump to conclusions. As far as narcissim goes, it is you that impute all sorts of cliched motives to me, engage in ad hominem insults simply because I have a different perspective than you, claim to speak for the general public, and overreact to what was a post met mostly in jest. Everyone else but you and one other poster got it. Of course I'm in the minority. If you actually read my post, you would have realized that I tip my hat to the free market system and the fact that Nissan must chase profits in building what customers want. That does not change the fact that they are not always right, otherwise, why would they build what the majority did not want? or that there are millions who want an SUV without the gugaws that appeal to women not men. Many automotive industry writers have also lamented the chickification of cars, which by the way, automotive designers focus group test with female buyers, hence the term, and fortunately, there remain alternatives. Do you really believe that Nissan is omiscient in killing the Pathfinder? Can you say Rogue, Murano, Juke?

Your semi-hysterical fear of not being "manly" even though I never suggested that, is obviously autobiographical. The only way, and pay attention this time, you could jump to such a conclusion, is if you have insecurities about your own masculinity. Otherwise, how could you and that other poster have jumped to screaming about what is a real man. No one, including me even posted anything suggesting that and yet this is how you to chose to inerpret what I posted. May I make a suggestion, innocence doesn't shout with cries of injury but the guilty do. Perhaps you like the new chickified Pathfinder and, me exposing this and you and that other poster liking the vehicle, have been exposed. Think about it before you engage in insult and ad hominem conclusions about someone you don't even know. Think about it before you indulge in your hackneyed politically correct cliches. They have the depth of intellectual integrity as the juvenile occupy wall street folks.