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Do I really have to reference your posts again? To paraphrase #29 I said Focus is overrated, almost like the BRZ in terms of hype. #34 You said I can't

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Old 09-27-2012, 01:44 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Do I really have to reference your posts again?

To paraphrase

#29 I said Focus is overrated, almost like the BRZ in terms of hype.
#34 You said I can't benchmark it when all I said it was overrated. You mentioned something about give it 12 months of long term testing.
#45 I basically said what difference does it make if you compare the car now vs. 12 months from now. The car has 200HP as far as I know and HP don't grow out of trees.
#46 You replied with something along the lines of BRZ turbo is coming and went on about how it compares to Miata.
#47 I basically said tell me when the BRZ hits and skip over the topic as the post was never about the BRZ.
#64 You basically said the BRZ is overrated and you are reserving your judgment until the turbo comes out (which essentially is what I said all along). Somehow it ended up making me a fanboy?

Do you just make up things as you go? Didn't you say they don't discount Corvettes when I showed you you can get them for thousands below sticker? Mazda's developing their own SkyActive engines and Ford is doing their EcoBoost engines. How are they sharing engines? You seem to love benchracing a lot, please do your research before you start typing crap that people can challenge you on.

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TROLL I know they are on seperate platforms, i'm talking engine & possibly transmission SHARED TECHNOLOGY not using each other chassis'.

Your post clearly states in bold. "Tell me once the turbo BRZ comes out". Genius. It's bolded and highlit for your trolling self. I don't have to tell you shyt about the future till its in the present. THHAAAT was my point. your opinons are moot. You're just a Z FORUM troll. Thats all.
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:43 PM   #77 (permalink)
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Do I really have to reference your posts again?

To paraphrase

#29 I said Focus is overrated, almost like the BRZ in terms of hype.
#34 You said I can't benchmark it when all I said it was overrated. You mentioned something about give it 12 months of long term testing.
#45 I basically said what difference does it make if you compare the car now vs. 12 months from now. The car has 200HP as far as I know and HP don't grow out of trees. s
#46 You replied with something along the lines of BRZ turbo is coming and went on about how it compares to Miata.
#47 I basically said tell me when the BRZ hits and skip over the topic as the post was never about the BRZ.
#64 You basically said the BRZ is overrated and you are reserving your judgment until the turbo comes out (which essentially is what I said all along). Somehow it ended up making me a fanboy?

Do you just make up things as you go? Didn't you say they don't discount Corvettes when I showed you you can get them for thousands below sticker? Mazda's developing their own SkyActive engines and Ford is doing their EcoBoost engines. How are they sharing engines? You seem to love benchracing a lot, please do your research before you start typing crap that people can challenge you on.
You're applying posts about upcoming cars and mixing them up with other convo's in other parts of the conversation. Most of these dont go hand in hand. You are using exerts to manipulate my words. Troll

That's exactly why you're a troll. Piece-fitting to make contradictory statements on shyt to make you look good. I cant believe you're spending that much time on that. Job? Woman? Nothing on Tv? Guess not?
Stating the future in competition and KNOWING the next miata will pose a higher power to weight ratio are two different things. I'm just saying the future holds serious comp for the BRZ. I'm saying mazda is not going to lose there position. Miata is still considered the better, more neutral sports car by reviewers standards. What the BRZ has over it is being a 2+2 coupe vs a 2 seater roadster... Your whole post is manipulative and garbage.
I didnt say they DONT DISCOUNT VETTES. I said as the model line-up gets higher, The discounts are harder to get. Here where i live now. Corvettes are a hot commodity in dealerships, while you can get a base cheap. The GS and Z06 are not as discounted well. i didnt NO discount. Just not as well as base models.
You in turn showed me a link from a forum of dealerships in the75% of which northern regions, pretty far from tx deep discounting vettes. But thats what trolls do, right...

So bitter and trollfull

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More importantly, if you think a member is trolling, report their posts. The moderators will warn or ban the user if they agree with you.

Name-calling attack posts are certainly against the forum rules.

Shall we go back to discussing the Focus now?

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More importantly, if you think a member is trolling, report their posts. The moderators will warn or ban the user if they agree with you.

Name-calling attack posts are certainly against the forum rules.

Shall we go back to discussing the Focus now?
Sorry guys!!! I'm letting shyt get to me that i shouldn't. You guys are right. Consider me checked. I feel it is trolling, but subtle trolling thats just enough to pass in a forum. but i guess calling him out as a troll while he can still pass off as not trolling, is name calling... to a degree.

Shado's test drive is way more interesting than my BS with Cossie.

I apologize.
Will NOT reply on that subject with him again. It makes me a troll inthe longrun.

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once again, how am I comparing up and coming cars when I made no reference of it until you brought it up? I didn't even respond to your non sense except to tell you to bring it up when or if the car comes out.

I don't recall saying anything about the miata (mx-5 btw). I think it was you who brought it up.

I suggest you go on the Corvette forums and check the prices out yourself before more non sense.

yup I am a troll who happened to own or owned a bunch of cars. I don't need to bench race it.

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You're applying posts about upcoming cars and mixing them up with other convo's in other parts of the conversation. Most of these dont go hand in hand. You are using exerts to manipulate my words. Troll

That's exactly why you're a troll. Piece-fitting to make contradictory statements on shyt to make you look good. I cant believe you're spending that much time on that. Job? Woman? Nothing on Tv? Guess not?
Stating the future in competition and KNOWING the next miata will pose a higher power to weight ratio are two different things. I'm just saying the future holds serious comp for the BRZ. I'm saying mazda is not going to lose there position. Miata is still considered the better, more neutral sports car by reviewers standards. What the BRZ has over it is being a 2+2 coupe vs a 2 seater roadster... Your whole post is manipulative and garbage.
I didnt say they DONT DISCOUNT VETTES. I said as the model line-up gets higher, The discounts are harder to get. Here where i live now. Corvettes are a hot commodity in dealerships, while you can get a base cheap. The GS and Z06 are not as discounted well. i didnt NO discount. Just not as well as base models.
You in turn showed me a link from a forum of dealerships in the75% of which northern regions, pretty far from tx deep discounting vettes. But thats what trolls do, right...

So bitter and trollfull
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Tested an ST today. Looking for one with our specs or we're going to order.

I guess that means we liked it. :|
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Let's just do respect each others opinion. Personally, I know Ford as one of the most excellent car manufacturer. Of course, cars condition might depend upon it's past service records and how it is being maintained. Since, you had use a rental car probably it has poor maintenance that is why you are not satisfied with it's performance. In fact, I have learned that Ford are teaming up with GM, for a joint task to produce a nine and 10-speed transmission to further improve their car models.

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I drive a base Ford Focus as my GOV. For what it is its not too bad. My two biggest complaints are the hard plastic near my right knee (sore spot) and the way the engine feels when you come to a stop (shakes and stumbles).

So far I've driven 12K miles in it. If I were paying for it I would have probably chosen the Hyundai Elantra though. Spend a little more to get a better warranty.
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We just got a loaded Focus ST. I don't have any experience with the base Focus models but the ST is pretty sweet. Good power, tons of grip, and good balance for a FWD car. Fun, practical, and efficient.

The 8" touchscreen is nice. Love all the gadgetry they are putting in the cars now. Love the Recaro seats too.
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Congrats! I saw it at the auto show in DC, and it was a nice looking car. I bet Ford Racing has goodies for it already too! Ford is good about that, offering actual parts that improve performance...not just key chains, cup-holders, and car covers.

Look at these goodies....

http://www.fordracingparts.com/Focus/

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Thanks!

Aftermarket is still a little light for the ST right now but that's not surprising given it's only been out for maybe a month now here.

SCT already has a tune out for it which saw a bump from a 230whp/280wtq baseline (engine is underrated... heavily on the torque figures) to 253whp/324wtq.

Steeda's cold air intake is almost finished for it. I believe they are working on tuning solutions right now as well.

Cobb is working on the car too.

I'm waiting to see what Cobb and Steeda do. If Steeda puts together a CAI/Tune package we'll probably spring for that. I have one on my 5.0 and it's great. Definitely need to break the car in first before tuning it. But 320+ lb-ft at 2,000 RPM on this car should make for some comedy.
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