Why do people love the Ford Focus so much

Iceagetlc · 09-13-2012, 12:44 AM

Focus ST baby. I can't wait to see how they do.

Lug · 09-13-2012, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceagetlc

Focus ST baby. I can't wait to see how they do.

First sets of dyno runs in

COBB got 226 whp and 286 ft/lb tq

Guy at a local dyno got 233 whp and 266 ft/lb tq

Ford is sandbagging a bit on the power specs.

Iceagetlc · 09-14-2012, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Lug

First sets of dyno runs in

COBB got 226 whp and 286 ft/lb tq

Guy at a local dyno got 233 whp and 266 ft/lb tq

Ford is sandbagging a bit on the power specs.

A coworker is picking one up in November, can't wait to see how it rides. I'm guessing Cobb will have an accessport for it ASAP.

cossie1600 · 09-14-2012, 01:06 AM

I paid 15K for my fully loaded Nissan Cube. It rides slightly better, it is quieter and it is bigger. For all the hype the Focus is getting, I am just disappointed.

They can take Europe all they want, but it is a piece of poop no matter what country you are from.

There are way better choices out there, no way in hell would I go near a stupid Focus.

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Originally Posted by Rockhound

I'm not sure I get your logic - or your expectations for $16k. A compact car is small? No way!

Much of the buzz surrounding the new Focus centered on the US finally getting the capable Euro platform back. Seeing as Detroit has long struggled to bring a compact car to the table with similar performance/reliability/desirability as the Japanese or Germans (sans reliability) auto journalists were justified in their excitement to get their hands on the Euro model.

Much of the hype is also based on the performance variants, namely the ST (252hp from a 2.0L I4 turbo, 0-60 in 6.2 sec).

As far as “riding almost as bad” as the Z – that’s a pretty ridiculous comment. The Z’s handling is one of the crowning achievements of Nissan’s engineers, if you ask me. Few other cars provide a similar balance between comfort and capability. On the other hand, inexpensive economy cars, especially those with a short wheelbase, are going to suffer from both a) sloppy handling and b) poor dampening. This is the worst of both worlds, in that every bump gets transmitted thru to your spine AND there's little in the way of roadholding. That the Z's suspension is stiff is at least a symptom of purpose.

I just really have to wonder – what exactly do you expect from $16k? You do realize in the realm of new cars, that’s not too far from the floor.

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370

Really you find the ride of your Z BAD? How do you ride it BTW?

It's bad for even a sports car, it is what it is.

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Originally Posted by ERZperformance

I sat inside a rental once and the car inside is small as hell. I'm only 5'10". I sat in the front passenger chair (which hardly have enough space), and even my 2.5 yrs old son with the car seat feel some tight in the back. I do like the Ford Fucsion. Rented that car a few times and pretty satisfy with it.

Exactly, I felt the same way. I can find way better options than the stupid Focus.

Rockhound · 09-14-2012, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

It's bad for even a sports car, it is what it is.

I forgot you're one of the resident Z-hating trolls. Here to rain on everyone's parade.

Wouldn't your Focus bash be more appropriate on a dedicated forum - you'd get more of that classic troll effect you're looking for here: http://www.focusfanatics.com/

Tazicon · 09-14-2012, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

It's bad for even a sports car, it is what it is.

I have driven many MANY cars over my 33 years of driving, you sir are wrong. I test drove cars for 2 years before buy my G then another 6 months before buying the Z I will say it once again, you sir are wrong. I drove everything from Z4 to Skys, Elises to an SL550. The best bang for your buck that I could find, which included handling, ride as well as creature features in a 2 seater was the 370z.

cossie1600 · 09-15-2012, 12:51 AM

I just checked the Ford website. The Ford Focus automatic hatch is $21K MSRP. Does that satisfy you? I just made a reference that the ride is bad on the Focus, almost Z like bad. Is that not true? The Z rides bad, but it is what it is, a sports car that handles. The Focus is not a sports car, but it rides almost as bad as one. The knock is on the Focus, not the Z fanboy.

Outside of the Sync, I still don't see what you get out of the stupid Focus hatch? Are you guys seeing something that I am not? $21K for a car that is smaller than a Civic, rides worse and is way noisier. Some people are in love with the car because it has an available turbo? Are you going to tell me the Lancer is the same as the EVO? My post was more about how overrated the car is, it is like the BRZ of compact cars. I am trolling about a Focus? I am not 18 and it isn't like I have never driven other cars before.

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

Enough with the trolling. Not only is that going to stir things up, it has nothing to do with what your thread is suppose to be about. There are plenty of things to complain about the Z but the ride quality isn't really on that list. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that stiffer springs and low profile tires will make the car more prone to a stiffer ride. You could say a 458 Italia has shytty quality too if we apply your "logic."

You're getting a lot for $16k. You can't find a Civic at that price unless it's the stripped down DX. If you're lookin for sports car handling and luxury comfort, you're not going to find it for $16k. The base Focus is commuter appliance, kind of like your POS Prius. At least with the Focus, there are some speedy variants that can be had. I want to know what car in the past has the same technology, fit, finish and performance you're comparing this to. Considering just about every car segment has grown considerably over the years, I also don't understand why the size of an economy car would even be an issue. They're all kind of small, but this segment had much smaller cars in the past. I actually decided to lease a Civic a few months back because I got a really good deal on it. It's boring to drive, the interior is okay, but it does what it's suppose to for my purpose so I think it's a great car. It's great on gas, pretty roomy unless you're fat, plenty reliable and gets me from point A to B. Complaining about it's flaws is pointless and moot.

Bang for the buck yes. Ride quality? I can think of 3 cars off the top of my head that rides better without giving up much in ride quality. Corvette, RX-8, M3, 997 GT3. Guess what, I have had many cars too.

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Originally Posted by Tazicon

I have driven many MANY cars over my 33 years of driving, you sir are wrong. I test drove cars for 2 years before buy my G then another 6 months before buying the Z I will say it once again, you sir are wrong. I drove everything from Z4 to Skys, Elises to an SL550. The best bang for your buck that I could find, which included handling, ride as well as creature features in a 2 seater was the 370z.

When did you buy your Z? I am a troll yet I have had it long than you? I am sorry I don't beat off every time someone praises it or cry when someone knocks it. I was purely using the Z as a reference, not as a knock.

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Originally Posted by Rockhound

I forgot you're one of the resident Z-hating trolls. Here to rain on everyone's parade.

Wouldn't your Focus bash be more appropriate on a dedicated forum - you'd get more of that classic troll effect you're looking for here: Ford Focus Forums, News, Articles, Message Board Discussions

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-15-2012, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

I just checked the Ford website. The Ford Focus automatic hatch is $21K MSRP. Does that satisfy you? I just made a reference that the ride is bad on the Focus, almost Z like bad. Is that not true? The Z rides bad, but it is what it is, a sports car that handles. The Focus is not a sports car, but it rides almost as bad as one. The knock is on the Focus, not the Z fanboy.

Outside of the Sync, I still don't see what you get out of the stupid Focus hatch? Are you guys seeing something that I am not? $21K for a car that is smaller than a Civic, rides worse and is way noisier. Some people are in love with the car because it has an available turbo? Are you going to tell me the Lancer is the same as the EVO? My post was more about ohow verrated the car is, it is like the BRZ of compact cars. I am trolling about a Focus? I am not 18 and it isn't like I have never driven other cars before.

Bang for the buck yes. Ride quality? I can think of 3 cars off the top of my head that rides better without giving up much in ride quality. Corvette, RX-8, M3, 997 GT3. Guess what, I have had many cars too.

When did you buy your Z? I am a troll yet I have had it long than you? I am sorry I don't beat off every time someone praises it or cry when someone knocks it. I was purely using the Z as a reference, not as a knock.

1.your view on the Z riding bad is subjective. I've been in much worse cars that don't absorb bumps well. The whole C5 generation was horrid and the C6 base is equal to the Z without magnetic ride.

2. the BRZ has been on the market 3 months. How can you make it a benchmark so soon??? At least give it 12 months of long term testing. TALK ABOUT BEING A FANBOI...

3. Your examples of better riding cars is:
a) Corvette a $51k car that can be had for 44k off the bat in base form but to get superior ride you need MRC and they don't discount those too much so you're looking at $51k minimum.

b)Rx 8, which is $28k extremely unreliable, has oil consumption issues, fuel starve (just like the Z) and is underpowered in the price range. It's only advantage is handling and ride quality compared to newer cars.

c) Porsche 997 GT3??? 6 figures

Your elitist syndrome of "Self-Loathing Reverse Fanboyism" is rearing it's ugly head... It perplexes me how we could be from the same state??? but I'm from the city so that may make a difference... so you're inadvertently comparing the Z and focus ride quality to a GT3??? you're losing it bruh.

4. you may not be 18 but 18 year olds would have more mature come-backs than what you are spewing out right now...
And like I said before... It's the self loathing fanboy who is the first to call out fanboy. This posts 1000% proves my whole theory.

You having a Z so long and being a supposed adult should have more constructive ways of getting your point across than this sillyness you wrote.

Stop being such a hater.

Cmike2780 · 09-15-2012, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

Bang for the buck yes. Ride quality? I can think of 3 cars off the top of my head that rides better without giving up much in ride quality. Corvette, RX-8, M3, 997 GT3. Guess what, I have had many cars too.

My co-worker has a corvette and my last car was an RX8. Although the RX8 was lighter and balanced, the Z has a much better ride quality. It came with stiff runflats for gods sake and so does the vette. I don't know what the hell you've been smoking. The Corvette wasn't anything exciting either. Its quick, but hardly the best ride quality. You feel every pebble with that car.

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