Nissan GTR

shadoquad · 09-07-2012, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by HKYStormFront

known facts:
nissan clearly states in the paperwork the owner signed when he purchased the car that it is intended for street use only and warranty is void for track use. the same goes for the 370z and any other car nissan sells. this is a CYA statement allowing them to void the warranty if they deem "owner abuse" is the cause of the problem

CYA or not, you have to admit it's contradictory to responsible driving. What it's saying, in effect, is that, "We've manufactured this paperweight with sporting pretentions. You have three options: (1) illegally stress it on the road where you are a danger to many people, (2) pay us more money to drive it on our track, (3) drive like a grandma to coffee meets and brag about what it does on paper."

Thank you, Nissan.

theDreamer · 09-07-2012, 10:25 AM

For anyone not liking this, many companies do this already from Porsche to Ferrari and even BMW now. Companies want to know more about what people are doing with the cars and if you modify them, largely so they can determine fault better (i.e. deny warranty claims).

HKYStormFront · 09-07-2012, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

CYA or not, you have to admit it's contradictory to responsible driving. What it's saying, in effect, is that, "We've manufactured this paperweight with sporting pretentions. You have three options: (1) illegally stress it on the road where you are a danger to many people, (2) pay us more money to drive it on our track, (3) drive like a grandma to coffee meets and brag about what it does on paper."

Thank you, Nissan.

i didn't say it was right, i'm just saying what it is. the fact of the matter is, horsepower, engine efficiency, tires/traction, suspension... all the bits that make up a performance car are getting so good, so fast that it's hard for the manufacturers to keep up with physics. to hand over a 530hp car to any driver, particularly when Nissan is gunshy about US drivers after they nearly bankrupted the company with the Z32, with a blank check warranty is not going to happen. those days are long gone. if you drive the car responsibly, get it inspected like it should be and don't do much more than a few bolt ons... chances are nissan will keep the warranty valid. that's pretty much what it boils down to

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

For anyone not liking this, many companies do this already from Porsche to Ferrari and even BMW now. Companies want to know more about what people are doing with the cars and if you modify them, largely so they can determine fault better (i.e. deny warranty claims).

yup, porsche definitely is doing this^ i'm sure all the new BMW's and at least the AMG mercs are the same. this is just going to be par for the course from now on, especially on higher performing cars

bigaudiofanat · 09-07-2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by HKYStormFront

the first part is only in the rest of the world, not the US. the second part is not true at all from what i've heard. they will only download this information if there is a warranty claim that is directly related to the performance/powertrain aspects of the car

You sure, I know in other countries the power is limited until it gets to a track but as far as it knowing when you get to one, I would think that would be everywhere.

HKYStormFront · 09-07-2012, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

You sure, I know in other countries the power is limited until it gets to a track but as far as it knowing when you get to one, I would think that would be everywhere.

yes, i am sure. i've heard it from dealers, i've read it in official nissan press, and i've tested it myself

also, power is not limited at all, it's just a speed limiter that kicks in at (i believe) 112mph unless on a track in all countries except US, and maybe canada, not sure about them... as with any car, a tune can remove this limiter as well

Isamu · 09-07-2012, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Nismo89

just remember not to do this:

if you think about it, it held up against the wall pretty good.. the mirror didn't even break off.. lol

HKYStormFront · 09-07-2012, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Isamu

if you think about it, it held up against the wall pretty good.. the mirror didn't even break off.. lol

yea GTR's are pretty stout. a friend of mine was riding in the back seat of one that hit a curb at over 100mph. the car flipped 3 or 4 times and hit a tree (still going over 60mph). the car was completely destroyed and looked like a smashed beer can but the passengers survived. my friend had broken legs and some other injuries but he survived. the driver only had a broken ankle and cuts and scrapes. the car is built to crash well, as it should be for something capable of such amazing speeds

Isamu · 09-07-2012, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by HKYStormFront

yea GTR's are pretty stout. a friend of mine was riding in the back seat of one that hit a curb at over 100mph. the car flipped 3 or 4 times and hit a tree (still going over 60mph). the car was completely destroyed and looked like a smashed beer can but the passengers survived. my friend had broken legs and some other injuries but he survived. the driver only had a broken ankle and cuts and scrapes. the car is built to crash well, as it should be for something capable of such amazing speeds

SalA · 09-07-2012, 12:42 PM

I believe that is a true statement. I also read that if you use the GTR Launch Control option more then 5 times or so...the warranty is voided as well.

MC · 09-07-2012, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

HKY, I believe if there is a clause that you can have your car inspected before & after a track event and if no improper wear was found the warranty is still 100%. Now this might be a dealership to dealership thing that some do to allow customers to go to the track with some safety net.

not for the US they do that for Europe because they have specialized HPC's for the GTR

Driving a GTR on the track does not void the warranty in any way. but while you are on the track anything that breaks that can be determined that the tracking was the cause will not be covered if there is a warranty claim. thats a common sense policy and most high manufacturers have it.

not turning VDC off is probably the single most important thing when wanting to maintain a warranty even more so than modding

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Originally Posted by SalA

I believe that is a true statement. I also read that if you use the GTR Launch Control option more then 5 times or so...the warranty is voided as well.

absolutely false

a lot of misinformation in this thread

everyone read through our FAQ

http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index....troc-gt-r-faq/

HKYStormFront · 09-07-2012, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SalA

I believe that is a true statement. I also read that if you use the GTR Launch Control option more then 5 times or so...the warranty is voided as well.

b1adesofcha0s · 09-07-2012, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

You sure, I know in other countries the power is limited until it gets to a track but as far as it knowing when you get to one, I would think that would be everywhere.

Yeah I've sat in a GT-R going faster than 112 mph........

6MT · 09-07-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Yeah I've sat in a GT-R going faster than 112 mph........

I pooped in one...

TerribleONE · 09-07-2012, 02:04 PM

good man for posting that MC... Just to put this out there, my dads tranny went out on his 09.. yes they pulled all the data logs, and they still warrantied the fix after some talking.. just doesnt have the 09 tranny/launch set up anymore.. wow did that thing launch hard!

b1adesofcha0s · 09-07-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 6MT

I pooped in one...

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SalA Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Milton, GA Posts: 247 Drives: 17 Nissan GT-R Rep Power: 16	I believe that is a true statement. I also read that if you use the GTR Launch Control option more then 5 times or so...the warranty is voided as well. __________________ 2017 Pearl White GT-R Premium \|Full Bolt-On E85 From Speed by Design\|

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TerribleONE A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 10,203 Drives: WOT Rep Power: 5851	good man for posting that MC... Just to put this out there, my dads tranny went out on his 09.. yes they pulled all the data logs, and they still warrantied the fix after some talking.. just doesnt have the 09 tranny/launch set up anymore.. wow did that thing launch hard! __________________ 638WHP 541WTQ @ 13.5PSI Build thread

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