2010 Z Sport to 2013 Mustang GT

ImportConvert · 09-05-2012, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

You shoulda listened to us when we told you import. You had plenty of research for 2 years on that. You bought the Z anyway. Don't complain now.

It's a minor quibble. A foot-note, really. Quite pleased with the 370Z. If I could change anything, it would be the suspension and Nissan's silly 53/47 bias. It's horrible for a car this nice, otherwise.

ImportConvert · 09-05-2012, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

I doubt I'd get a V6 in anything again.

I4, I6, V8 all OK, but never been impressed with a V6.

I'll obviously consider V10...V12...W16...if I have too...

I'm pretty pleased with my VQ37. It's not as smooth as my LS1 or LS7 were, but it is not bad, either. It just has a different temperament. I like it, personally. It feels identical to my LS1 in every way, but it is much more efficient at lower throttle input. Better mileage cruising around the city, and when you sit in traffic idling, it actually runs cooler than if you were cruising at 70. Kinda neat. It's my first car that has ever been like that. I credit the unique valvetrain arrangement for the low rpm/throttle efficiency.

ImportConvert · 09-05-2012, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MC

I think the transmission on my brothers 2013 GT went out today. he came over all stressed out today and i drove it to see what i thought.. at about 2K rpm it sounded like you were hitting one of those run off strips on the interstate.. i was thinking to myself what the hell is that? trans. suspension? well we got it over to the dealer who acted like they didnt give a **** on a a brand new 46K car with 3900 miles on it.. anyway a tech finally rode with me and me and him decided it was probably from the tranmission like maybe low line pressure and the clutch not getting oil or something.. because it wouldnt do it under full acceleration. only other thing it "might" be the VDC as sometimes it turns off on its on and maybe the VDC is coming on..but i doubt it.. i think the tranny is dying.

they gave us a 2012 ford explorer to drive.. i told my brother he better get used to it as i bet it will be a while before its fixed

Sounds like some BS. Hands-down, GM has given me the best service of any dealership. Nissan, I rank as "fair to poor". Ford "fair". GM "Outfrickenstanding!"

Quality of vehicles has gone opposite for me. Nissan > Ford > GM.

Anyway, change dealers. Your brother's dealer is full of fail treating you guys that way.

cossie1600 · 09-05-2012, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MC

I think the transmission on my brothers 2013 GT went out today. he came over all stressed out today and i drove it to see what i thought.. at about 2K rpm it sounded like you were hitting one of those run off strips on the interstate.. i was thinking to myself what the hell is that? trans. suspension? well we got it over to the dealer who acted like they didnt give a **** on a a brand new 46K car with 3900 miles on it.. anyway a tech finally rode with me and me and him decided it was probably from the tranmission like maybe low line pressure and the clutch not getting oil or something.. because it wouldnt do it under full acceleration. only other thing it "might" be the VDC as sometimes it turns off on its on and maybe the VDC is coming on..but i doubt it.. i think the tranny is dying.

they gave us a 2012 ford explorer to drive.. i told my brother he better get used to it as i bet it will be a while before its fixed

sounds like how Nissan treats me when I get into the dealer

Red__Zed · 09-05-2012, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I'd call that an outlier.

no, when a mustang runs slow, that is the norm. When a Z runs slow, it is an outlier.

Red__Zed · 09-05-2012, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

It's a minor quibble. A foot-note, really. Quite pleased with the 370Z. If I could change anything, it would be the suspension and Nissan's silly 53/47 bias. It's horrible for a car this nice, otherwise.

Better be careful. Dissing the "perfectly balanced" Z is dangerous.

The good news is, the Z's balance is perfect for laps around a 200' skidpad at part throttle

shadoquad · 09-05-2012, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

no, when a mustang runs slow, that is the norm. When a Z runs slow, it is an outlier.

The mustang can't beat a Bugatti in a drag race. It is slow.

The Z corners better than a Lincoln Navigator. It is fast.

Q.E.D.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-05-2012, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

It's a minor quibble. A foot-note, really. Quite pleased with the 370Z. If I could change anything, it would be the suspension and Nissan's silly 53/47 bias. It's horrible for a car this nice, otherwise.

53/47 is done that way so when you have 2 passengers of similar weight and the car is in motion. It will have 50/50 distribution when necessary. As when the car is under hard acceleration. Weight will transfer to 50/50 which is good coming out of turns.

Why do you find it silly?.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-05-2012, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

no, when a mustang runs slow, that is the norm. When a Z runs slow, it is an outlier.

If i'm correct? The average gt mustang will run 4.8/12.8 right? Besters will run 4.4/12.6?

Red__Zed · 09-05-2012, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

53/47 is done that way so when you have 2 passengers of similar weight and the car is in motion. It will have 50/50 distribution when necessary. As when the car is under hard acceleration. Weight will transfer to 50/50 which is good coming out of turns.

Why do you find it silly?.

because the nissan story about why the distribution is good is a complete fabrication...it is just an excuse.

MC · 09-05-2012, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

If i'm correct? The average gt mustang will run 4.8/12.8 right? Besters will run 4.4/12.6?

i ran like a 8.5@84 1/8th mile with my brothers.. whatever that translates to..probably high 12's

best 0-60 i got on the in car gauge was 4.9

cossie1600 · 09-05-2012, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

because the nissan story about why the distribution is good is a complete fabrication...it is just an excuse.

yup, why do you want 50/50 weight distribution coming out of the corner? I would rather take a mid engine corner and take advantage of its braking and turn-in too

Red__Zed · 09-05-2012, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

yup, why do you want 50/50 weight distribution coming out of the corner? I would rather take a mid engine corner and take advantage of its braking and turn-in too

you want 50/50 on 30% throttle, because that's how they run skidpad tests

m4a1mustang · 09-05-2012, 08:19 PM

50/50 on entry and through the center is where its at. The marketing guys just got a hold of the 53/47 thing and ran with it.

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mjd77 · 09-05-2012, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

v6 mustang isn't bad either, and frankly still pretty quick. Not sure I'd be ok with driving one though

I find it amusing that the V-6 Mustang gets bashed so much, even though it only has 10 less HP and is just as fast as the old V-8, which nobody complained about.

Now the old V-6...that was a joke.

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