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Red__Zed 09-06-2012 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1904060)
This post has perfect 53/47 truth distribution :icon17::icon17::icon17:

Looks closer to 54/46 to me, but luckily when I lean on the keyboard, it shifts backwards a little bit

shadoquad 09-06-2012 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1904068)
Looks closer to 54/46 to me, but luckily when I lean on the keyboard, it shifts backwards a little bit

You should surf the internet with a second typer next to you. It improves.

m4a1mustang 09-06-2012 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1904060)
This post has perfect 53/47 truth distribution :icon17::icon17::icon17:

Marketing is awesome because there's usually a high concentration of hot chicks. At least that's what the marketing major was like in college. Lots of hot chicks and then dudes trying to hook up with said hot chicks. Then the dudes realize that Marketing sucks (:yum:) and decide to double in Accounting and Finance. Don't ask me how I know.












:rofl2:

Red__Zed 09-06-2012 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1904076)
Marketing is awesome because there's usually a high concentration of hot chicks. At least that's what the marketing major was like in college. Lots of hot chicks and then dudes trying to hook up with said hot chicks. Then the dudes realize that Marketing sucks (:yum:) and decide to double in Accounting and Finance. Don't ask me how I know.



:rofl2:


And that's the true story about how m4a1 became...quite literally...the director of T&A....

m4a1mustang 09-06-2012 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1904082)
And that's the true story about how m4a1 became...quite literally...the director of T&A....

:tiphat:

UNKNOWN_370 09-06-2012 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1903949)
Correct. The "scientific" junk is just marketing bs

So i just researched this tidbit of info... Thanks. You're absolutely right. But I would like to say this... Nissan throws around that 50/50 weight distribution thing around because of PORSCHE. They copy everything Porsche does. They are the ones who began the 50/50 weight thing. Now I don't know if Porsche was scamming or not? But I clearly remember them selling cars off of this theory.

ANYONE remember th3 advertisements for the 1987 & 1988 Porsche 928 S4?
Well, Porsche had a beautiful picture of the porsche on a green mountain road, possibly the autobahn or a section of the Nurbergrhing or however its spelled. The writing boasted the 928 S4 as the fastest automatic transmission production car in the world. 0-60 in 5.0 seconds and a top speed of 171mph. They boasted high end blaupunkt stereos and features that you didn't see on cars till the year 2001. but the hook of that add was the 928 s4's perfect 51/49 weight distribution. lol. Or 50/50 in the earliest adds.

cossie1600 09-06-2012 04:03 PM

nope it is BMW. Porsche is famous for their 911, not 924 or 928...

ImportConvert 09-06-2012 05:52 PM

GM is currently the king of 50/50 weight distribution in their Corvette line up, IMO. When I weighed mine, it was within about 0.25% of that ideal, IIRC. Variable with driver/fuel. It handled great, as well. 50/50 is definitely easier for me to drive in the corners than my 370Z's mustang-like weight distribution. Yeah, I did buy into the marketing, until my first few corners. Then I wondered...wtf are they smoking!?

shadoquad 09-06-2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1905024)
GM is currently the king of 50/50 weight distribution in their Corvette line up, IMO. When I weighed mine, it was within about 0.25% of that ideal, IIRC. Variable with driver/fuel. It handled great, as well. 50/50 is definitely easier for me to drive in the corners than my 370Z's mustang-like weight distribution. Yeah, I did buy into the marketing, until my first few corners. Then I wondered...wtf are they smoking!?

BRZ's

*rimshot*


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cossie1600 09-06-2012 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1905024)
GM is currently the king of 50/50 weight distribution in their Corvette line up, IMO. When I weighed mine, it was within about 0.25% of that ideal, IIRC. Variable with driver/fuel. It handled great, as well. 50/50 is definitely easier for me to drive in the corners than my 370Z's mustang-like weight distribution. Yeah, I did buy into the marketing, until my first few corners. Then I wondered...wtf are they smoking!?

The handling came from you spending $60K on the car......

4. Myth: The "ideal" weight distribution is 50/50: The vehicle has the same weight on both the front and rear axles.

Truth: While most sport-oriented cars do have weight distributions close to 50/50, there's much more to proper handling than just distribution. A car with 50/50 weight distribution would handle poorly if most of the weight was at the ends of the car (i.e., ahead of the front axle and behind the rear axle).

Far more important than weight distribution is the location of the center of gravity and polar moment of inertia. (The center of gravity is where a giant could balance the car on one finger. Polar moment of inertia refers to whether the vehicle's weight is concentrated in one location — which makes for a responsive car — or spread throughout the vehicle.) Something else against 50/50 being the ideal weight distribution: Most open-wheel Formula-style racecars, which many people would hold up as being the best-handling type of racecars, have 60 percent or more of their weight on the rear tires.

Source: Edmunds

ImportConvert 09-06-2012 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1905042)
The handling came from you spending $60K on the car......

4. Myth: The "ideal" weight distribution is 50/50: The vehicle has the same weight on both the front and rear axles.

Truth: While most sport-oriented cars do have weight distributions close to 50/50, there's much more to proper handling than just distribution. A car with 50/50 weight distribution would handle poorly if most of the weight was at the ends of the car (i.e., ahead of the front axle and behind the rear axle).

Far more important than weight distribution is the location of the center of gravity and polar moment of inertia. (The center of gravity is where a giant could balance the car on one finger. Polar moment of inertia refers to whether the vehicle's weight is concentrated in one location — which makes for a responsive car — or spread throughout the vehicle.) Something else against 50/50 being the ideal weight distribution: Most open-wheel Formula-style racecars, which many people would hold up as being the best-handling type of racecars, have 60 percent or more of their weight on the rear tires.

Source: Edmunds

My Z06 did have a lot more of its weight close to the center. That helped a lot, I think. The 370Z just scares you to push it on long sweeping corners. The Z06 bred confidence. On tight corners, the 370Z feels like a pig to me, although it is easier to park because of the tighter turning radius and the driver's position in the vehicle.

Red__Zed 09-06-2012 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1905042)
The handling came from you spending $60K on the car......

4. Myth: The "ideal" weight distribution is 50/50: The vehicle has the same weight on both the front and rear axles.

Truth: While most sport-oriented cars do have weight distributions close to 50/50, there's much more to proper handling than just distribution. A car with 50/50 weight distribution would handle poorly if most of the weight was at the ends of the car (i.e., ahead of the front axle and behind the rear axle).

Far more important than weight distribution is the location of the center of gravity and polar moment of inertia. (The center of gravity is where a giant could balance the car on one finger. Polar moment of inertia refers to whether the vehicle's weight is concentrated in one location — which makes for a responsive car — or spread throughout the vehicle.) Something else against 50/50 being the ideal weight distribution: Most open-wheel Formula-style racecars, which many people would hold up as being the best-handling type of racecars, have 60 percent or more of their weight on the rear tires.

Source: Edmunds


Definitely true there is a lot that comes into play. I'm pretty sure my mustang has weight distribution that is about as bad as the Z, but steady state balance is much better.

shadoquad 09-06-2012 06:43 PM

I'm not a 10/10ths driver, so I feel very comfortable turning in the Z. I don't know how it is when it approaches its limits, as I don't drive it at its limits. For as fast as I've ever needed to go, the car handles amazingly. I've taken many corners very quickly.

Now, plenty of folks have noted how the car is scary at 10/10ths. I'll find that out, I'm sure, as I start hitting the tracks, which will happen soon. But as you folks pick the Z apart for its handling, realize that most people don't push it hard enough to make it an issue.

Not being a fanboy. Just an honest perspective from someone who probably doesn't drive as fast as the rest of you.

cossie1600 09-06-2012 06:44 PM

Once again, 60K vs 30K, you can add a whole lot of confidence for $30K. Weight distribution is one of many factors, i.e suspension tuning, overall weight, tires, etc.

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1905056)
My Z06 did have a lot more of its weight close to the center. That helped a lot, I think. The 370Z just scares you to push it on long sweeping corners. The Z06 bred confidence. On tight corners, the 370Z feels like a pig to me, although it is easier to park because of the tighter turning radius and the driver's position in the vehicle.


cossie1600 09-06-2012 06:57 PM

The car really isn't bad to drive at the limit. It is way easier than the C6 Corvette I had. Heck the Corvette was so hard to drive that I got rid of it because I don't trust myself with it at the track. One thing I learned is that the faster the car, the farther you are going to fly off the track if anything were to happen. The Z car is a cakewalk compare to that. I spun 3-4 times in the Corvette and had 2 off track over 2 years. I have one spin and no off track in 3 years on the 370. It's really that much easier to drive.

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1905082)
I'm not a 10/10ths driver, so I feel very comfortable turning in the Z. I don't know how it is when it approaches its limits, as I don't drive it at its limits. For as fast as I've ever needed to go, the car handles amazingly. I've taken many corners very quickly.

Now, plenty of folks have noted how the car is scary at 10/10ths. I'll find that out, I'm sure, as I start hitting the tracks, which will happen soon. But as you folks pick the Z apart for its handling, realize that most people don't push it hard enough to make it an issue.

Not being a fanboy. Just an honest perspective from someone who probably doesn't drive as fast as the rest of you.



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