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1st 08-28-2012 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Imtired (Post 1891063)
doesnothavewife

Or does and just wears the pants in the relationship. It’s called a backbone or also known as just letting your nuts hang.

Imtired 08-28-2012 06:38 PM

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ImportConvert 08-28-2012 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1881084)
Agree. When you're driving the car conservatively, it is quite gentle.

I agree, but it does handle bumps very poorly in OEM configuration. My Z06 was a much better car over bumps, oddly enough. Way more controlled. New shocks might be just the ticket.

ImportConvert 08-28-2012 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by babbagandu (Post 1890852)
Freaking hate reading posts where people are trading in their car or can't pay for mods because their wife says so. Grow some balls damnit why would you let anyone tell you that you can't have something that you are passionate about?

I see it on every forum I am on. On the firearm types, it is:

"My wife would kill me..."

On the Corvette forums its:

"My wife wants to go to grad school and wants me to sell the Z06 to help pay for it..."

On the 370Z forums its some form of:

"My wife doesn't like my car and wants to get something like a 5-series..."


Here's the lesson...never do **** for a female. You WILL hate yourself after the divorce when you are driving past your old/her new house in the car you didn't want.

ImportConvert 08-28-2012 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamu (Post 1884295)
My wife. "Honey when are you going to put swaybars and Coilovers on my 350z?" Want to trade wives?

"Show me a hot girl, and I'll show you a guy that's tired of ****ing her."--My Roommate in College

Totally true. BS has a limit beyond which nothing compensates.

ImportConvert 08-28-2012 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Compdoc777 (Post 1882390)
Wow the difference is night and day between my 370z and my Nismo in suspension the Nismo will shake your teeth out while the 370z is smooth and soft. Should let her ride in a Nismo maybe she'll have a rethink.

Really weird considering they handle identical in every test I have seen (which is to say, the NISMO wins some, the Sport wins some. Kinda a wash).

Red__Zed 08-28-2012 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1891263)
I agree, but it does handle bumps very poorly in OEM configuration. My Z06 was a much better car over bumps, oddly enough. Way more controlled. New shocks might be just the ticket.

Do you notice it in the front or rear?

chknhawk 08-28-2012 11:51 PM

The best strategy is.....not to play. Now going to defcon 5. Prepare for impact.lol

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ImportConvert 08-29-2012 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1891355)
Do you notice it in the front or rear?

Both, it just has horrible rebound control. My Z06, when it hit a bump, I felt the bump, and that was it. In my 370Z, I hit a bump, and then it catches air (compared to the Z06). I have provoked TC at 80mph on the freeway hitting dips with cruise-control on it's so bad. It's like a damn pogo-stick. Bouncy bouncy bouncy. Needs better shocks, I just don't feel like spending the $$ on them right now because then I would obsess over the poor weight dist. Then I would obsess over something else. Screw it. It's a cheap sporty coupe with a nice interior and great styling, and I feel like I got my money's worth with it. Better than a cheap supercar with a junk interior (considering I don't do HPDE's), lol. No regrets, just a few critiques.


After 10K miles experience in my 270Z, I think Nissan needs to:

-Get the car a LOT closer to 50/50 weight dist.
-Fix the rebound control issues. (Maybe NISMO is better?)
-tighten up the front end so that it feels crisper turning into corners. (Maybe the stiffer NISMO fixes that, I have not driven one).


No, I still do not wish I had bought a mustang 5.0 instead. The interior and styling of the 370Z make up for the BOSS's better handling and more acceleration. I consider my 370Z a nice, comfortable car first, and a sporty car second. If I wanted raw performance, I would have kept the Z06.

My largest performance complaint regarding my 370Z is the poor weight distribution. It is not 53/47. I weighed it. It is way worse. More like 55-56/44-45, based on DOT scales with me in the car (190#) and a full tank of gas. My Z06 was within about half a percent or less of 50/50 in the same configuration. It felt WAY better in the corners. That is the only thing I really miss about it. I mean, the power is nice, but you get used to it. Confidence in the corners and being able to more precisely place the car with gas/brake is something I miss.

With the 370Z, I feel like you enter the corner at a certain speed lightly on the brakes, and accelerate. If the corner is longer than you intended---suck. If it's shorter---you lose exit velocity. With my Z06, I entered the corner lightly on the brakes and could either stay that way, or I could balance with the throttle, or I could balance with the throttle and then lift a little, or...

With the 370Z, if you are in a long corner and balancing with the throttle---that means accelerating. When you get off the throttle because you are approaching tire-adhesion limits, you are then going way too fast for the shitty 55/45 balance the car has static, which is more like 58/42 coasting in gear, and you will not like what is probably going to happen.

Take into account that I am not a pro, and have only a few days of intense HPDE instruction, but this is what I take away from each car. The 370Z takes a lot more planning with a corner. The z06, you can plan as you go. It was a very forgiving car and would always ask you "Hey...I'm about to do something uncool, you sure?" The 370Z, it feels like it would say "Hey, you're going too fast now, because you had to go fast to make me happy, but now I'm uncomfortable with going this fast. Either you ride this out and hope your tires are better than you can reasonably expect, or let off and watch me rock your world."

Rebound control? It will matter a lot less to me when I leave LA and get away from our crap roads. Weight dist. will always suck, unless I need drastic driving help and am "doing it wrong".

Nikkolai 08-29-2012 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1891672)
Both, it just has horrible rebound control. My Z06, when it hit a bump, I felt the bump, and that was it. In my 370Z, I hit a bump, and then it catches air (compared to the Z06). I have provoked TC at 80mph on the freeway hitting dips with cruise-control on it's so bad. It's like a damn pogo-stick. Bouncy bouncy bouncy. Needs better shocks, I just don't feel like spending the $$ on them right now because then I would obsess over the poor weight dist. Then I would obsess over something else. Screw it. It's a cheap sporty coupe with a nice interior and great styling, and I feel like I got my money's worth with it. Better than a cheap supercar with a junk interior (considering I don't do HPDE's), lol. No regrets, just a few critiques.


After 10K miles experience in my 270Z, I think Nissan needs to:


-Fix the rebound control issues. (Maybe NISMO is better?)
-tighten up the front end so that it feels crisper turning into corners. (Maybe the stiffer NISMO fixes that, I have not driven one).


It's much worse with the Nismo. I've done the same with bumps on the freeway. It felt scary and thought I'd lose control of the car hitting the bumps. I've been in my friend's 09 Z06 and that car definitely behaves a lot more with bumps.

Compdoc777 08-29-2012 08:27 AM

Driving both the Nismo and the 370 sport I can tell you the handling on both is great. The Nismo is much more stiff and the rebound leave you able to feel the road a little more. I know when I get on the cars they both perform great yet when I get insane with the car the Nismo shows its prowless. The Nismo is bumpy and loud, but in the correct hands it's a powerful car and properly setup.

Add some r spec tires to the mix and your are on rails. The Nismo feels like i am glued to the pavement. The other day I took a corner I could only do about 40 around in them 370 sport and took it at 60 in the Nismo. The car never under steered or over steered and I was pulling so hard in the turn that I realized that I need a 5 point harness and nothing loose in my car.

ImportConvert 08-29-2012 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Compdoc777 (Post 1891883)
Driving both the Nismo and the 370 sport I can tell you the handling on both is great. The Nismo is much more stiff and the rebound leave you able to feel the road a little more. I know when I get on the cars they both perform great yet when I get insane with the car the Nismo shows its prowless. The Nismo is bumpy and loud, but in the correct hands it's a powerful car and properly setup.

Add some r spec tires to the mix and your are on rails. The Nismo feels like i am glued to the pavement. The other day I took a corner I could only do about 40 around in them 370 sport and took it at 60 in the Nismo. The car never under steered or over steered and I was pulling so hard in the turn that I realized that I need a 5 point harness and nothing loose in my car.

I think you just feel more confident in the NISMO because body-roll is buttoned down a bit more. The Sport and NISMO both pull near identical slalom numbers and skidpad numbers.

Could be wrong, though. Never drove a NISMO, but I know my Z06 inspired more confidence because it has 0 body roll compared to my Sport. However, it was false confidence. The Z06 WILL slide. You just get your feedback from the tires more than the body-lean. Better that way.

ImportConvert 08-29-2012 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Compdoc777 (Post 1891883)
Driving both the Nismo and the 370 sport I can tell you the handling on both is great. The Nismo is much more stiff and the rebound leave you able to feel the road a little more. I know when I get on the cars they both perform great yet when I get insane with the car the Nismo shows its prowless. The Nismo is bumpy and loud, but in the correct hands it's a powerful car and properly setup.

Add some r spec tires to the mix and your are on rails. The Nismo feels like i am glued to the pavement. The other day I took a corner I could only do about 40 around in them 370 sport and took it at 60 in the Nismo. The car never under steered or over steered and I was pulling so hard in the turn that I realized that I need a 5 point harness and nothing loose in my car.

Yeah, it almost reminds me of those civics you see with cut springs going bouncebouncebounce after they hit a little ridge in the pavement. People can say what they want about the composite transverse leaf-spring, but unless you are corner-weighting the car, it's far superior. Progressive, and insures equal rate over each wheel, and absorbs stuff like this flawlessly. Nissan could take a few lessons from GM in the suspension department. Ferrari has.

My dream car:

GM MRC suspension/PTM
Ford FI motor.
Ferrari body airflow management.
Audi interior
BMW transmission
Porsche's chassis
Dodge rear-end/axles
Kia's price structure

Red__Zed 08-29-2012 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Compdoc777 (Post 1891883)
Driving both the Nismo and the 370 sport I can tell you the handling on both is great. The Nismo is much more stiff and the rebound leave you able to feel the road a little more. I know when I get on the cars they both perform great yet when I get insane with the car the Nismo shows its prowless. The Nismo is bumpy and loud, but in the correct hands it's a powerful car and properly setup.

Add some r spec tires to the mix and your are on rails. The Nismo feels like i am glued to the pavement. The other day I took a corner I could only do about 40 around in them 370 sport and took it at 60 in the Nismo. The car never under steered or over steered and I was pulling so hard in the turn that I realized that I need a 5 point harness and nothing loose in my car.

:|

AlphaSnacks 08-29-2012 07:23 PM

My wife and I have a 335 Coupe along with my 370Z...the 335 is rougher than the Z. Don't get one if that's such a concern. Our 335 has a handful of mods too, which actually helped make the car smoother and less harsh surprisingly). We're trading in the BMW for a 2012 Jaguar XF 5.0, though....my wife is the ******* best.

Does your wife have a car of her own?

370Z_RACER 08-30-2012 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1891355)
Do you notice it in the front or rear?

if you sell a z, you probably feel it in the rear


:superghey:

bigsix 08-30-2012 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1892078)
Yeah, it almost reminds me of those civics you see with cut springs going bouncebouncebounce after they hit a little ridge in the pavement. People can say what they want about the composite transverse leaf-spring, but unless you are corner-weighting the car, it's far superior. Progressive, and insures equal rate over each wheel, and absorbs stuff like this flawlessly. Nissan could take a few lessons from GM in the suspension department. Ferrari has.

My dream car:

GM MRC suspension/PTM
Ford FI motor.
Ferrari body airflow management.
Audi interior
BMW transmission
Porsche's chassis
Dodge rear-end/axles
Kia's price structure


Pretty interesting preferences... I like your transmission choice.

How about wheels/tyres ?

ImportConvert 08-31-2012 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bigsix (Post 1895122)
Pretty interesting preferences... I like your transmission choice.

How about wheels/tyres ?

I'm a Michelin man.

With big trucks, you can pick the chassis, trans, engine. I think it would be killer if cars came this way, that's all.

Rhinetom 09-05-2012 09:15 AM

Appreciate all the suggestions. I think I will go for the Audi TTRS all wheel drive, 360 hp. Unsure if I will private sale the Z or trade it in.

SalA 09-05-2012 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1880967)
G's are very nice, or you can spot up a bmw 335i

The e90 series 335i with a sport suspension is not an improved ride. I would say it rides harder then the Z.

ImportConvert 09-05-2012 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SalA (Post 1902364)
The e90 series 335i with a sport suspension is not an improved ride. I would say it rides harder then the Z.

My Z06 "rode harder", but it felt way better on bumpy roads because while it was stiff, it was well controlled. The 370Z is all over the place.

AlphaSnacks 09-05-2012 11:44 AM

The 370Z needs a drop - Swifts (or rather, the spring rate and height of them) should've been standard.

I do feel that in some regards the 350Z, despite being rough as f*ck, exhibited just a tad less roll than the 370Z stock-for-stock. The 350Z's steering was also heavier and a tad more responsive, as a result. But again, it doesn't take much money at all to get the 370Z to where it's supposed to be - which is what makes it such a great car. It starts off with the right compromise of comfort and agility, and you can take it and fine tune it to your liking. It is a proper tuner car in that respect, as it does not break the bank. Not in my opinion, at least.


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