My FR-S test drive experience
 

This is a few weeks late, so my apologies.

I had visited the Scion dealership that is 4 blocks from my house in early June to check out their first shipment of FR-S (which were all spoken for already) to observe the fit and finish and get a chance to sit in the car. (thread here). While I had no intention of buying one, I certainly wanted to see what all the hype was about and get a chance to drive another fun car. They told me they'd have a demo car in the next week to test drive and check back in then... so I did and I got to drive one around for 20+ min.

Here were my impressions:

Light clutch feel, very easy to depress - if you've driven a newer GTI its almost exactly the same feel. Gear shifts aren't as buttery as the hydraulically assisted GTI (which is a good thing) offering a more mechanical feel similar to the Z but to lesser extent. Car fired right up with a quick rise to about 3k before it quickly settled back down to the idling RPM. This car definitely revs faster than the Z which is nice, though the exhaust note was a let down/engine noise was a let down.

After giving the car a good minute to warm up, we headed out onto a busy street and immediately he tells me to get on it. Being a good pupil, I obeyed and stepped on it. Car wound up and it began to scoot along at a brisk pace for the 3 blocks we traveled before coming to a halt at a red light. He looks at me with a big smile on his face and asks "isn't this thing nuts?". It really wasn't; while not sluggish it doesn't feel quick at all. My parents have a '05 Cobalt SS that's supercharged with 200hp and just a bit more weight (2800lbs) and it feels world's quicker than this car. Same with the GTIs I've driven. You really didn't feel any pull until the motor was up past 5k on its way to the 7.5k redline. It also starts to make more noise again at those levels, but again not something worth noting. A throatier exhaust is much needed, but again you don't by a 4 cylinder for the sound. No offense.

Now things start to get more upbeat.

We take a right onto another busy road which is totally clear (3 lanes wide) so I goose it and break the rear end loose. Now I have a smile and he has an "oh ****" face going. A little counter-steer and we're back facing the right direction... now I know why this thing has 215s out back :) Steering ratio is tight and accurate, very well done. We proceeded on this road which dumps us into a federally maintained park of about 100 acres that has really smooth roads, lots of twisties and elevation changes, all to be enjoyed with little traffic.

I turn off the traction control and VSC and we begin to swiftly tackle the road ahead. Car feels great in the turns. More body roll then I thought there'd be, but it feels sure-footed and nimble. This is where the car belongs with its precision in the turns. Lighter steering than the Z (at least my Z with the Swift Spec-R springs). It was a blast driving through this 4 mile section. A much different feeling than the Z in the corners. Is it better? No, it's different. My Z really feels planted and sticky in the corners, but does so with a much heavier presence which I tend to prefer - very Porsch-esc.

In a few of the sweeping turns I got to get the tires to squeal a bit which was great, the sales rep could care less. He kept pretending to be on the phone to the manager saying someone was interested in this car and that I had to make an offer on it soon. My response, "I thought this was a demo car." He replies "everything has a price tag!"

After our fun in the park we had to get back into the city and drop the car off at their sister dealership which was another 5 miles away. Lots of stop and go traffic while climbing the steep hills of SF. Very livable stick, easy to adapt to while requiring lite clutch work. This seems to be a perfect entry car to the sports car market.

In the end, this car definitely met the expectations from the hype. It's quick enough and handles really well, plus the skinny tires make for some fun. Coming from a Z, it really feels lacking in the power department. Seeing that I really use the power in ALL of my driving, this car would never fit the bill for me. Plus, if you want to think about the economics of it, it doesn't make sense.

Base = $25k
Wheels would need to go as they really aren't attractive = $2k+
Cloth seats feel REALLY cheap, rest of the cabin is fine though. Would opt to do aftermarket leather (which this dealership offered) = $2k
Tires to fit the new wheels = $800

Now you're already over $30k and you don't have the interior quality of the Z nor the HIDs... And you can (or you used to be able to) pick up a base Z + sport package for $32k. Logic points me to the latter.

Nice review.

Good Perspective Review... informative and un-biased

Thanks for the review.

I sat in a Toyota 86 a few months ago at the Bangkok Auto Show. I was really impressed w/ the driving position, steering wheel feel, bucket seats, & interior; however, I didn't get to drive the car or hear the engine/exhuast.
I had thought the engine note/exhaust/200 hp would be the weak points. . .

Great review! I hope I have the chance to drive one sometime this year too, they seem like a hoot despite being down on power.

Glad you were able to scare that salesman btw :)

If your coming from a Z. You would not want to have this one. It will bore you to death.
But yes its a very nice fun car to have for starters at $25K.

Best buy for ages 18 to 28. IMO

Sold your Car?

Saw a FRS finally on the freeway today. We were stuck in traffic next to each other for a little ways. Was kind of a let down. Looks much better in pictures. In person I was underwhelmed. The tires and definitely too narrow for the body of the car. It was a white, which was rather dirty as we just had a rain storm here a few days ago. Perhaps in blue or red it would look better, but so far not too impressed with looks. Definitely not impressed at all by power. I can appreciate the light weight of the car but it's definitely a car you would spend 25k on and then another 10k on mods just to make decent (wheels, tires, springs, etc). I'll stick with my 370z and if I want something light weight I'll stick to my 280z that has a small bit more than the 200hp of the FRS.

op-so you were able to goose the tail loose before you turned off traction control...(?)

rota's and falkens = $800 total? lol

Yes I was, take a tight turn much too fast and put the pedal down... car will get loose before the traction control knows what hit it! The sales guy was like "glad the traction control was on otherwise it could have been a lot worse"

I feel this is a legit thread now that you've posted in it Kechan, that you for blessing it ;)


*Oh and if you re-read what I said, tires only = $800... wheels were separate at $2k+

:tup: hey, i think you could't just done a takumi and drifted out of that turn. screw VDC and traction con-trollllololo :tup:

oh, i meant for most people that drive a car like that, they will spend on rotas + falken junk 457's and getta "deal" for $800 shipped. lol :rofl2: