ZL1 beats new GT500

Lug · 06-20-2012, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Never

I completely agree... Seems like the reviewers like the Chevy more, which is fine but its one of those things "O ya the Mustang is quicker in a straight line but its not all about how quick it is"

...What...?

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

By half a second, at that!

Doesn't sound like much, but in drag racing, that's huge.

Then again, this is all paper racing, and both of those cars would smoke me in my Z.

No ****. And I thought the media was biased when reporting on political stuff. That kind of stuff don't hold a candle to this article!

shadoquad · 06-20-2012, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

How dare you speak about Project Bugatti Beater like that? I should slap some sense into you

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Originally Posted by Never

Its true. Because Drag racing has nothing to do with time slips, Al's seats would win, win in comfort and style

MightyBobo · 06-20-2012, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

By half a second, at that!

Doesn't sound like much, but in drag racing, that's huge.

Then again, this is all paper racing, and both of those cars would smoke me in my Z.

Well, I wouldnt quite say THAT. Say, a 9.99 and a 10.49 for instance - that's huge.

But, a 14.5 and a 14.0? Not so much lol

These speeds, for sure there's a good bit of difference, but I wouldnt go so far as to say it's ginormous...

Red__Zed · 06-20-2012, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Well, I wouldnt quite say THAT. Say, a 9.99 and a 10.49 for instance - that's huge.

But, a 14.5 and a 14.0? Not so much lol

These speeds, for sure there's a good bit of difference, but I wouldnt go so far as to say it's ginormous...

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

About 90 feet

Not bad

MightyBobo · 06-20-2012, 12:30 PM

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Warring factions of people finally fessing up to the fact that the other side can do something right -- that's pretty cool.

Best god damn line in the whole article, hands down.

MightyBobo · 06-20-2012, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Not bad

About .5 seconds worth of distance lol. Significant, but for 80 horsepower more and a live-axle? I'm not surprised...not to mention less bulk to get up to speed.

shadoquad · 06-20-2012, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Well, I wouldnt quite say THAT. Say, a 9.99 and a 10.49 for instance - that's huge.

But, a 14.5 and a 14.0? Not so much lol

These speeds, for sure there's a good bit of difference, but I wouldnt go so far as to say it's ginormous...

Oh, it's a difference.

Red__Zed · 06-20-2012, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

About .5 seconds worth of distance lol. Significant, but for 80 horsepower more and a live-axle? I'm not surprised...not to mention less bulk to get up to speed.

90 over 1320 isn't insignificant, especially when these cars are very much traction limited.

The trap delta is even more telling.

MightyBobo · 06-20-2012, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

90 over 1320 isn't insignificant, especially when these cars are very much traction limited.

The trap delta is even more telling.

You're repeating what I said - it IS significant. But it's indicitive of the car's strengths over the Camaro. A lot more power, and a 300lbs less in bulk.

Are we all shocked or something? lol

Red__Zed · 06-20-2012, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

You're repeating what I said - it IS significant. But it's indicitive of the car's strengths over the Camaro. A lot more power, and a 300lbs less in bulk.

Are we all shocked or something? lol

It's also on less tire.

And I'm responding to this:

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

in drag racing, that is huge

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Well, I wouldnt quite say THAT. Say, a 9.99 and a 10.49 for instance - that's huge.
...

MightyBobo · 06-20-2012, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

It's also on less tire.

And I'm responding to this:

I think my definition of "huge" as far as gaps in timeslips in a drag race vary from yours.

0.5 seconds CAN be huge, but that is all relative - I suppose I was just saying that when I think of "huge", I think of the difference between 9.99 and 10.49. Not a low 12 and a high 11, when I was running those times in my old Camaro lol. I know what it takes to run them, because I've done it. And if 80 horsepower/300 pounds arent enough to motivate a good 0.5 seconds and 90 feet out of a car...

Maybe drag strip times in the 11's/12's just simply don't impress me anymore. *shrug*

chris410 · 06-20-2012, 12:53 PM

From the article:

"The clutch pedal is very heavy, has a lot of travel, and is difficult to push all the way to the firewall. And if you tried the ZL1's "no-lift shift" technique in the Ford, you'd rip the body-mounted linkage right out of the transmission tunnel."

So far nearly every article seems to be biased and a sad attempt to justify how good the ZL-1 is. If you have trouble pushing the clutch to the floor you should not be in this car in the first place. Like I've said before, both are great cars...now when will someone come out with an article that simply discusses each one without having to find something to justify the other's worth? This is actually a compliment however, to me it makes the author seem like he's paid by Chevy to write the article. And YES...the GT500 is more of a drag car than a road race car, if it wasn't it would have the independent rear. Again, in the real world...you're going to end up running from a stop or roll. Go to a trackday and yes unless you can really drive well, the ZL-1 will have an edge.

I hope they have Probst do a drive in each since he seems to provide good and honest feedback.

shadoquad · 06-20-2012, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

I think my definition of "huge" as far as gaps in timeslips in a drag race vary from yours.

0.5 seconds CAN be huge, but that is all relative - I suppose I was just saying that when I think of "huge", I think of the difference between 9.99 and 10.49. Not a low 12 and a high 11, when I was running those times in my old Camaro lol. I know what it takes to run them, because I've done it. And if 80 horsepower/300 pounds arent enough to motivate a good 0.5 seconds and 90 feet out of a car...

Maybe drag strip times in the 11's/12's just simply don't impress me anymore. *shrug*

It's ok. My comment was to the casual observer who doesn't understand that .5 is a decent gap. I agree, given the hp/weight numbers, it was predictable. I'm just saying that half a second takes some work to overcome.

MightyBobo · 06-20-2012, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

It's ok. My comment was to the casual observer who doesn't understand that .5 is a decent gap. I agree, given the hp/weight numbers, it was predictable. I'm just saying that half a second takes some work to overcome.

Yeah I understand completely. I'm probably being too extreme on what I find impressive anyway. Maybe after seeing these amazing cars made from scrap heaps back in Omaha that run 9's has spoiled me into realizing that drag racing is fairly dumb and 11's/12's is the new 13's/14's lol

b1adesofcha0s · 06-20-2012, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Yeah I understand completely. I'm probably being too extreme on what I find impressive anyway. Maybe after seeing these amazing cars made from scrap heaps back in Omaha that run 9's has spoiled me into realizing that drag racing is fairly dumb and 11's/12's is the new 13's/14's lol

Elitist drag racer

06-20-2012, 12:53 PM	#102 (permalink)
chris410 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 345 Drives: 10' GT500 Rep Power: 16	From the article: "The clutch pedal is very heavy, has a lot of travel, and is difficult to push all the way to the firewall. And if you tried the ZL1's "no-lift shift" technique in the Ford, you'd rip the body-mounted linkage right out of the transmission tunnel." So far nearly every article seems to be biased and a sad attempt to justify how good the ZL-1 is. If you have trouble pushing the clutch to the floor you should not be in this car in the first place. Like I've said before, both are great cars...now when will someone come out with an article that simply discusses each one without having to find something to justify the other's worth? This is actually a compliment however, to me it makes the author seem like he's paid by Chevy to write the article. And YES...the GT500 is more of a drag car than a road race car, if it wasn't it would have the independent rear. Again, in the real world...you're going to end up running from a stop or roll. Go to a trackday and yes unless you can really drive well, the ZL-1 will have an edge. I hope they have Probst do a drive in each since he seems to provide good and honest feedback. __________________ Chris Current: 2014 WRX Stage I + SPT / 2013 Hayabusa 202HP Former:09 370Z 7-AT PW/Ark Type 2 exhaust/Evo R lip/TSW Nurburgring carbon

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