Well this isn't a fanboy thread so we are the other 10%. :icon17:

:iagree: plus we were just commenting on how impressive the new ford looks :tup:

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And if its anything like an MS3, a simple tune + cai will get that thing to 300hp. :eek:

I guess you've never been to a NASA or SCCA event, or FF Battle/Super Lap Battle/Honda Challenge/various rally events/tons of other series and events. There's PLENTY of enthusiasm for FWD.







If there was no enthusiasm for these cars, automakers wouldn't be producing them.

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Most of us look forward to seeing the outcome of this car in a positive way. Only a couple of posts mocked or down this car.

Most events I seen where civics, eclipse and TC's and suh compete. I noticed guys spent crazy money putting power to the rearI've only seen FWD at the dragstrip.

Fords are well known for their shitty quality, overall with most ford vehicles, you can usually get 30k-60k trouble free miles, but after that they start to have all types of problems engine, tranny, broken welds on rear ends, rotting out oil pans and electrical issues.

With Fords you can get some that will go to about 125k -150k on the motors, but they are usually ready for the grave at that point. My brother owned ford trucks from rangers to f150 and f350 deisels, he drives them mostly highway and puts on about 50k per year. Most of the fords he has owned over the last 10yrs, have had major issues

The longest he got was from a ranger pick up run on mobile one and oil changed every 4k miles, after about 120k the truck started loosing power and he did a compression test and most of the cylinders only had 110-120 psi, and the truck would only do 75mph top speed.

Comparing this to his nissan pick up that got 275k miles on castrol gtx and still did 100mph on the high way, he gave it to his girl friend that drove it for another 5 yrs.

The only reason he still buys rangers is that they are cheap and get employee pricing and sells them off every 3 yrs.

I also had a friend that was a fleet manager for a communications company that used ford vans, rangers, taurus, LTD, areostars, f150, escorts and he often told me how many problems they had with the ford vehicles and they were always in for multiple repairs under waranty that even the dealers could not fix them.

The only reason they stayed with fords, was because to vice president's brother inlaw was a sales manager at a local ford dealership and there was nothing they could do till. the VP retired or quit.

There policy was to keep the vehicles for 60k then sell them off to employees or whoesale them back to the dealership.

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I think its a good looking car for the buck your paying. I was always a die hard Honda fan for years on end till the 2000s when they started going down hill in looks and quality. Id be open to look at one of these if I was in a need for a fun 4 door DD. My attention has definitely been caught by Hyundai in the last few years though but for a fun 4 door hatch, id go swing by and look at this. Then again, id look at the Mazda 3 speed as well but I think the ford looks better.

LOVE MY GTI!! :) :driving: :hello: 2012 with GTI-35 wheels "Watkins Glen"

Looks good. :tup:

Its a fun machine! Nice compliment to the Z. I guess Im a 49 yr old 'douche bag' :)

Take me dancing. :bowrofl:

I'll bet it is. I like hot hatches.

LOL! Ok but I lead LOL :)

:icon17: repped for being a good sport :tup: