Ford Focus ST Priced < $25k

kenchan · 05-01-2012, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Maximas are worse handlers than altimas, believe it or not. Not as reliable either. Maximas basically have more looks. I'm not sure how understeer is controlled specifically, but its description sounds like its computer controlled. Possibly through braking? Let me see if I can find the altima spec sheet again online.

huh, always thought maximas were superior to altima's but guess not any more.

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Lifted from Nissan "A Nissan first, the 2013 Altima is equipped with Active Understeer Control (AUC) to give you a smooth, controlled, and comfortable ride. The system senses understeer and oversteer and subtly applies braking power to the inside wheels when you are turning, giving you sharper handling in all conditions."

thanks, mustang. yah, applying brakes would help. do you guys remember back in the days when honda had the prelude-SH? that was the other way, i think, where the drive train applied more power to the outer wheels when turning.

m4a1mustang · 05-01-2012, 03:42 PM

In my experience the Maxima is pretty damn stout. I'm thoroughly impressed with that car... especially the handling. Altima? Not so much.

GM_Traitor3.5's Maxima kicks a lot of butt. Especially now since it's on Eibachs and Super Sports. Last year on the stock all-seasons we did a Dragon run with him, me, Red__Zed, and shadoquad (total ~4800lbs) and didn't die. What a rush. Kudos to Nissan for building a really nice, fun sedan.

m4a1mustang · 05-01-2012, 03:44 PM

Though the new Altima does look really nice. They keep making it more and more like the Maxima.

brucelidat · 05-01-2012, 03:48 PM

the 2013 is supposed to get some pretty mileage as well, pretty close to compacts like corollas, civics, and focuses.

kenchan · 05-01-2012, 03:53 PM

so the 2013's is the new re-designed altima they started showing?

you can tell i dont know much about sedans. hahaha.

kenchan · 05-01-2012, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

In my experience the Maxima is pretty damn stout. I'm thoroughly impressed with that car... especially the handling. Altima? Not so much.

GM_Traitor3.5's Maxima kicks a lot of butt. Especially now since it's on Eibachs and Super Sports. Last year on the stock all-seasons we did a Dragon run with him, me, Red__Zed, and shadoquad (total ~4800lbs) and didn't die. What a rush. Kudos to Nissan for building a really nice, fun sedan.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-01-2012, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

huh, always thought maximas were superior to altima's but guess not any more.

thanks, mustang. yah, applying brakes would help. do you guys remember back in the days when honda had the prelude-SH? that was the other way, i think, where the drive train applied more power to the outer wheels when turning.

Maximas giive you more luxury and better styling. Altimas are much lighter and equipped with a 3.5. Are faster and take corners better.

shadoquad · 05-01-2012, 03:56 PM

I'll be looking into this when it hits showrooms. I don't mind FWD. This is pretty sweet.

Liquid_G · 05-01-2012, 03:56 PM

who cares? why is this in the 370z General Discussion section?

shadoquad · 05-01-2012, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Liquid_G

who cares? why is this in the 370z General Discussion section?

agree, it should be in Other Vehicles section

bigdog1250 · 05-01-2012, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Liquid_G

who cares? why is this in the 370z General Discussion section?

Because it could be a competitor if being cross-shopped

Obviously it grabbed your attention if you clicked into the thread, thus you must have cared enough to take a look - Just saying

kenchan · 05-01-2012, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdog1250

Because it could be a competitor if being cross-shopped

Obviously it grabbed your attention if you clicked into the thread, thus you must have cared enough to take a look - Just saying

yep, plus, most of us dont drive our Z's as dd's and looking for dd#2. lol

but yah, i suppose it could be in the 'other cars' forum...

Mt Tam I am · 05-01-2012, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

In my experience the Maxima is pretty damn stout. I'm thoroughly impressed with that car... especially the handling. Altima? Not so much.

GM_Traitor3.5's Maxima kicks a lot of butt. Especially now since it's on Eibachs and Super Sports. Last year on the stock all-seasons we did a Dragon run with him, me, Red__Zed, and shadoquad (total ~4800lbs) and didn't die. What a rush. Kudos to Nissan for building a really nice, fun sedan.

Perhaps we are setting the bar too low for a proper comparison. Thus far every car I've been in meets this survival standard.

Red__Zed · 05-01-2012, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

Perhaps we are setting the bar too low for a proper comparison. Thus far every car I've been in meets this survival standard.

You don't understand the dragon at night.

There's deer, and there's turns, and there are 240sx's with drift ornaments and stickers that say fwd sucks.

And then there are people in very heavy Maximas with something to prove.

m4a1mustang · 05-01-2012, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

You don't understand the dragon at night.

There's deer, and there's turns, and there are 240sx's with drift ornaments and stickers that say fwd sucks.

And then there are people in very heavy Maximas with something to prove.

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	In my experience the Maxima is pretty damn stout. I'm thoroughly impressed with that car... especially the handling. Altima? Not so much. GM_Traitor3.5's Maxima kicks a lot of butt. Especially now since it's on Eibachs and Super Sports. Last year on the stock all-seasons we did a Dragon run with him, me, Red__Zed, and shadoquad (total ~4800lbs) and didn't die. What a rush. Kudos to Nissan for building a really nice, fun sedan. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	so the 2013's is the new re-designed altima they started showing? you can tell i dont know much about sedans. hahaha.

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