Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1766956)

Stock for stock, they aren't much faster...also that "free" maintenance is far from free. You're paying for it along with the badge. A dealer can throw in a "free" maintenance plan when you're negotiating the price of the Z for instance. It's like with anything companies throw in for free.

Originally Posted by Pauly (Post 1767486)

every time i share the road with a bmw driver, they find it necessary to floor it, swerve in my lane in front of me, close enough to remove the clear coat off my bumper (all this with little or no other traffic prohibiting safe distance driving), or just switch into my lane while next to me, as if my car didnt exist, running me off the road (if i didnt feel like filling out an accident report, waiting for my car to be repaired, filing an insurance claim, etc.). they all try to prove something. egotistical b**t*rds

Originally Posted by ianthegreat (Post 1778501)

The difference is you get the free 3 year 50k warranty regardless of your negotiating skills. I negotiated from invoice and paid 45k; however, I didn't want all the extra's like navi, cooled/heated seats, etc - just sports package, which I'm sure reduced the overall price by several thousand.

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1778798)

The free warranty doesn't cover everything, though. And if BMW decides that your problem isn't under warranty, you have to pay sky high repair costs.

Originally Posted by ianthegreat (Post 1779516)

What doesn't it cover? I guess that's a better question. Hell, they way I hold my steering wheel caused the decal to rub off a little and they replaced that around 30k. I've never been denied anything under 3 year/50k.

I think many people mistake the BMW warranty like many other American drive train warranties or other imports. This waranty is all inclusive, including brake pads, oil changes, everything. Really is a big positive.

Originally Posted by ALTN8NRG (Post 1792041)

I chose fun over status any day.

Originally Posted by ianthegreat (Post 1778511)

Aside from the bad drivers (every model brand has them, 370z included), they probably really liked your car and thought it was cool. Don't take it as an insult, don't be overly sensitive. As long as there is no immediate danger (cars around you), imo no harm in a little 4 second romp on the accelerator. ;) have fun, but stay safe.