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Originally Posted by daisuke149
Id say people are butthurt. Everyones saying its a dumb comparo, that no way the z would loose.. blah blah. No ones mentioned, hey, if its unfair to compare it to the z, why is it fair tocompare it to the miata.??
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Ok, I see what you are getting at. Personally, I have no experience with the Miata, so I can't comment on how well I feel they match up. Maybe it shouldn't be compared to the Miata as much as it shouldn't be compared to the Z.
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Originally Posted by daisuke149
and the reason you SHOULDNT compare it to the 200sx, supra, rx-7 is that those cars are like 10+ years old... The idea he was trying to convey, is that is this car, good enough to be thought of like those cars, many years later.
but. anywho.
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I agree that this is what the writer wants to answer. However, the writer never actually comes back and revisits this original premise. The article immediately shifts into comparing it with the Miata and the Z, calls them blunt/dull comunicators and then says it is possibly the best car to come from Japan since the NSX.
I guess all of that could be a convaluted way of answering the question of whether the BRZ is as good as the Mazda RX-7, Nissan 200SX and Toyota Supra, but if it is, that is just poor writing.
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Originally Posted by daisuke149
Every article, review has said the brz handles great. That its really awesome to drive. They didnt say its the fastest thing out there. With the concept in mind, and what they were trying to achieve with the car, i'd say perhaps they did it right. I havnt driven one to say from personal experience, but ALL the reviews seem to say so.
I didnt say the z to a gtr is a good comparison, making the brz to gtr a good comparison.. your just reaching there. The point was, that given the circumstances, cars that you didnt think could, can keep up with other cars. DOesnt mean its a better car, or faster etc. Give me a indoor go cart race, and truthfully, id chose to race a toyota iq instead of a z on it. (or a go kart duh)
Does that mean i shuld compare new go karts to the z? ... no...
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I never made the assertion you had claimed the Z to GTR was a good comparison nor made the assertion myself, simply that the comparison proves my point that making comparisons based upon handling characteristics is dumb because you can find vehicles all across the spectrum that can handle well be it a go kart or an Aventador.
I agree that Subaru and Toyota seem to have made a very good vehicle from everything I have read on it, although I am not keen on the price of the vehicle.
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Originally Posted by daisuke149
And if the mags, didnt make comparions against CURRENT cars that are in the same market segment, (not same class) what would they do?
They took 3 cars that are supposed to be FUN, sports cars that reward the driver. I think they picked the 3 right cars to compare.
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But are they in the same segment? I wouldn't think so, but at the same time I don't really know what would be more appropriate so maybe it is. Like bvl mentioned, I think we will end up seeing it compared to some FWD setups in the future. Perhaps that is a more appropriate segment, but maybe not.
The BRZ really is a very unique vehicle right now. Like I previously said, I hope it does well. I would really like to see more vehicles like it start poping up.
I hope this helps to clarify some.
04-18-2012, 07:52 PM
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