BRZ vs 370Z vs MX-5 Review

daisuke149

Wow, honestly i see alot of butthurt z owners here.

I dont care what this comparison says.

A lightweight, shorter car in a track where there are a ton of sharp corners and less straights, should keep up with something heaver with more power.

On little talladega as they call it, Mikes 370z was easily hanging with the bigger beastly GTR's. He actually passed a few, Its a very short course, with sharp turns and the straights arent very long at all.

Also, why would you NOT want to compare a car against something that would normally be considered better? The point is to try and upsell the car. The Z was compared to the z4, the cayman...

Hyundai compares its cars to lexus etc.

Seriously guys.. stop getting butthurt... in the end, this comparison and article really won't mean anything. People will buy that car if they like it and they will buy the z if they like the z.

shadoquad

I'm not butthurt. I just said I'd believe it when I see it, and I kinda doubt it's as good as they're hyping. But you make a good point about comparing things up-scale. Too bad I can't agree with you out of principle, only because it's you.

Spikuh

Maybe I am giving everyone the benifit of the doubt, but no one seems upset or butthurt...

And if the automaker wants to compare their vehicle to another automaker, thats one thing, but when mags and/or people start making comparisons based on handling characteristics and ignoring everything else then what is the point of even making the comparison... It ends up being just a bunch words not evern worth the paper they are written on. Case in point, you mention the Z being able to hang with the GTR's on a certain track, so why don't we compare the BRZ to the GTR?

I guess my point is, yellow journalism is stupid...

Totally unrelated to the above, one of the first things the article says is this:

We’ve come to the Cote d’Azur to find out one thing. Has the Subaru BRZ earned its place at the top table alongside the likes of the Mazda RX-7, Nissan 200SX and Toyota Supra.

And then it never actually uses these cars as a comparison. Lol.

daisuke149

Id say people are butthurt. Everyones saying its a dumb comparo, that no way the z would loose.. blah blah. No ones mentioned, hey, if its unfair to compare it to the z, why is it fair tocompare it to the miata.??

and the reason you SHOULDNT compare it to the 200sx, supra, rx-7 is that those cars are like 10+ years old... The idea he was trying to convey, is that is this car, good enough to be thought of like those cars, many years later.

but. anywho.

Every article, review has said the brz handles great. That its really awesome to drive. They didnt say its the fastest thing out there. With the concept in mind, and what they were trying to achieve with the car, i'd say perhaps they did it right. I havnt driven one to say from personal experience, but ALL the reviews seem to say so.

I didnt say the z to a gtr is a good comparison, making the brz to gtr a good comparison.. your just reaching there. The point was, that given the circumstances, cars that you didnt think could, can keep up with other cars. DOesnt mean its a better car, or faster etc. Give me a indoor go cart race, and truthfully, id chose to race a toyota iq instead of a z on it. (or a go kart duh)

Does that mean i shuld compare new go karts to the z? ... no...

And if the mags, didnt make comparions against CURRENT cars that are in the same market segment, (not same class) what would they do?

They took 3 cars that are supposed to be FUN, sports cars that reward the driver. I think they picked the 3 right cars to compare.

Spikuh

Ok, I see what you are getting at. Personally, I have no experience with the Miata, so I can't comment on how well I feel they match up. Maybe it shouldn't be compared to the Miata as much as it shouldn't be compared to the Z.

I agree that this is what the writer wants to answer. However, the writer never actually comes back and revisits this original premise. The article immediately shifts into comparing it with the Miata and the Z, calls them blunt/dull comunicators and then says it is possibly the best car to come from Japan since the NSX.

I guess all of that could be a convaluted way of answering the question of whether the BRZ is as good as the Mazda RX-7, Nissan 200SX and Toyota Supra, but if it is, that is just poor writing.

I never made the assertion you had claimed the Z to GTR was a good comparison nor made the assertion myself, simply that the comparison proves my point that making comparisons based upon handling characteristics is dumb because you can find vehicles all across the spectrum that can handle well be it a go kart or an Aventador.

I agree that Subaru and Toyota seem to have made a very good vehicle from everything I have read on it, although I am not keen on the price of the vehicle.


But are they in the same segment? I wouldn't think so, but at the same time I don't really know what would be more appropriate so maybe it is. Like bvl mentioned, I think we will end up seeing it compared to some FWD setups in the future. Perhaps that is a more appropriate segment, but maybe not.

The BRZ really is a very unique vehicle right now. Like I previously said, I hope it does well. I would really like to see more vehicles like it start poping up.

I hope this helps to clarify some.