so remember that infiniti v6 tt patent...
 

looks like infiniti will be planning to put down some serious power in the new g IPL. unfortunately for us, it doesnt look like we will be getting a v6tt standard in the next gen z. i do however see that a DI vq is in the works. which would be what i would expect to see in the next z car

Infiniti Super G with 530-hp Twin-Turbo V-6 in Pipeline - Motor Trend

maybe (hopefully) there will be a TT option for the Z. The G is nice and all, but there are way too many of them on the street and the Z is still suppose dot be their true sports car while the G is their sports sedan/sporty coupe

GTR is nissans sports car.... I dont see a TT V6 coming to the Z at all.. It makes a little more sense to put it in the G to cut down on the M3/C63 type of market IMO

gtr is their super car, the Z is their affordable sports car for the average enthusiast, but yes, the tt coming to the Z is not looking likely.

I was going to say, time to save and consider the new super G until i read the article and saw that it would cost more than a gt-r....

Possible engine swap?

considering it's an infiniti i would guess it should cost more than a nissan...(?)

either way too much power for me to use on street.

There's an interview with the man that created the gtr and he says the next g comes out next year not summer of 2014. So I don't know how much to make of this interview.

http://www.askmen.com/cars/car-news/...#ixzz1kXeIrGG9

i don't need 530 hp (though, i wouldn't mind), a FI 400 hp Z would make me plenty happy

i hope they dont screw up the G this time... :excited: for me id take a regular one with sports package. non of that ipl stuff.

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I hope this is true, so that the IPL name actually gets some substance behind it.

A DI 370Z with 360+ hp would be great :)

Price tag is going to severely limit sales... I have only seen one IPL on the road as it is.

yah, ive only seen one on the road too. probably the same car. :icon17:

might have been more successful if it was somewhere in between the G and gtr like an m3. 110k for a G will be a tough sell, especially if it looks about the same as the tons of regular models you are going to see on the street. you expect some sense of exclusivity when spending 100k+ on a car.

yep. but even $60K on a G i think one would want exclusivity other than just looks. if you want just looks get a regular G, lower, wheels, done for $5K. :icon17:

I'm not saying just looks, but looks are required. If you have a 110k G, you don't want it to look 95% like a 40k G. The rest, improved performance, luxury, etc. is obvious or you wouldn't be buying that G over the other one to begin with.

yep, the current ipl is basically the same as a G with some aerobits and such, hardly worth the extra funds imho... this is why i think for the current gen it's better to just go aftermarket.


if it's a special edition it has to stand out. like you said between a regular 3-series and M-series. or like AMG for benz and such. performance and looks.

even a M3 doesn't really stand out form a regular M to most people. But it's also not 100k+. It sits right around where I think people will pay for increased performance without visual exclusivity/rareness. So a 60k G with significantly improved performance would make more sense to me than a 110k G because it's still going to be a G to everyone on the street.

The article doesn't actually mention the Z, but yeah most likely they wont put it into the Z because a Z wont sell for 100K. What they can do though is but a smaller turbo engine in the Z, HP goes up, weight goes down.

everyone notice that i keep agreeing to bruce, yet bruce keeps arguing that there's something wrong with my posts.

wats going on here? :confused:

bruce: i think fries needs ketchup
kenchan: absolutely! melted cheeze also goes well. :yum:
bruce: no, kenchan... :facepalm: ketchup and cheeze do not go well together.
kenchan: huh? :confused:

haha, not arguing. just affirming, lol, sorry. trying to work and post at the same time.

if i ever see charburgers on a menu somewhere, I will definitely order it because of you kenchan

lol, dont forget the cheeze fries! :tup:

i won't

And think of what you could do with a base G (say 45-50k) and 50-60k of upgrades... IPL killer? Odd stance.

Now an Infiniti version of the GTR at 110k would be something... same platform with some fit and finish upgrades sort of how the 370 and G37 are... that might sell.

The only IPL I saw was at the brokerage firm I work at and it was being drivin by a lady that appeared to be in her 50s... pretty sure she had a ton of cash and no idea what the car was about, just was the pretty one on the lot.

an infiniti version of the gt-r will be 130-150k since the gtr is already 100k+, but yes, it would be awesome

I'm sorry but this is not a good idea for Infiniti. 100k+ Infiniti will not sell. I don't care how fast it is. The GTR only sells because it has a whole legacy and is based on a classic GTR, not to mention its performance. The IPL was a complete failure of a car. Now a Infiniti that costs more than a GTR doesn't make sense. I can guarantee you that it will not be quicker than a GTR. If they are trying to compete with a C63, that's 60-70k not nearly 100k. They are basically in competition with themselves at this point as they build both the cars, and supposed to be in the same factory.
Let me just name a few cars 100-110k if they fancy any of you. 2012 M5, M6, E63, CLS63, Porsche Carrera/S.

an infiniti might sell if it performed better than the gt-r and was more luxurious and looked sexy (maybe like the essence concept), but obviously not in large numbers. It would definitely have to stand out though and be special. This one we're talking about here, the 100k+ 530 hp G will not sell unless it is in the 60k in betweener level range.

I don't think it would have to be a big seller either. It could be used to draw more attention to the G's and Infiniti overall, much like the Corvette ZR1. The ZR1 starts at over 110k while the base Corvette starts at 50k. It's a pretty similar leap and I haven't heard anyone consider the ZR1 a flop.

Keep practicing.








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Wow:wtf2:

lol...........

That V6TT would be sweet in the next model Z. Like a lot of guys eluded, that may just be a wet dream!

Interesting for Infiniti but will never happen in a Z :(

I posted this in a separate thread, but deleted that thread once I realized it was a repost.

I think this will give more substance to the IPL name than the Nismo does with the Z. At the same time, I think it is a terrible idea to price it that high and it probably won't sell much. You could probably buy a regular sport G coupe and add an aftermarket TT kit + suspension upgrades and still come out the cost of this new IPL.

The Z is not a real sports car. Neither is the GTR, neither is the G or the bimmer. Every car under 100k is a bullshyyt poser. Z's are fake porsches. Get over it. Z is a carbon copy and in reality the G is a better buy. It offers a lot more for a little bit extra while the Z catches the herbs who wanna have a cheap sub 100k sports car. Ur Z is not better than any car out there. You always break even cuz at our price range we all fakin' it. Don't fool yourselves. We are not exclusive. We just not selling well that's it.

But I love my Z. And I know my Z IS NOT BETTER OR EXCLUSIVE. Its just the car I love.

NEXT!!!!

:wtf: :confused: I could have sworn you were one of the Z fanboys. How drunk are you right now? :p

I know the Z isn't perfect, but its no where near as bad as you're saying. The G is definitely not better if you care about performance.

I don't think the G is better at all. I had the choice between the two and picked the Z. Coming from an Acura I didn't care much for luxury anymore. I'm very happy with my purchase.

Same here. I chose the Z over the G because it felt more like a sports car. It's more performance oriented than the G and cheaper, which is what it's supposed to be.

Z=sports car (2 seats, mostly manuals out there, rwd,good weight distribution)
G coupe = Sporty Coupe (room for 4, mostly autos, rwd/awd, bigger)