so remember that infiniti v6 tt patent...

kenchan · 04-13-2012, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat

might have been more successful if it was somewhere in between the G and gtr like an m3. 110k for a G will be a tough sell, especially if it looks about the same as the tons of regular models you are going to see on the street. you expect some sense of exclusivity when spending 100k+ on a car.

yep. but even $60K on a G i think one would want exclusivity other than just looks. if you want just looks get a regular G, lower, wheels, done for $5K.

brucelidat · 04-13-2012, 05:22 PM

I'm not saying just looks, but looks are required. If you have a 110k G, you don't want it to look 95% like a 40k G. The rest, improved performance, luxury, etc. is obvious or you wouldn't be buying that G over the other one to begin with.

kenchan · 04-13-2012, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brucelidat

I'm not saying just looks, but looks are required. If you have a 110k G, you don't want it to look 95% like a 40k G. The rest, improved performance, luxury, etc. is obvious or you wouldn't be buying that G over the other one to begin with.

yep, the current ipl is basically the same as a G with some aerobits and such, hardly worth the extra funds imho... this is why i think for the current gen it's better to just go aftermarket.

if it's a special edition it has to stand out. like you said between a regular 3-series and M-series. or like AMG for benz and such. performance and looks.

brucelidat · 04-13-2012, 05:31 PM

even a M3 doesn't really stand out form a regular M to most people. But it's also not 100k+. It sits right around where I think people will pay for increased performance without visual exclusivity/rareness. So a 60k G with significantly improved performance would make more sense to me than a 110k G because it's still going to be a G to everyone on the street.

ZMan8 · 04-13-2012, 05:35 PM

The article doesn't actually mention the Z, but yeah most likely they wont put it into the Z because a Z wont sell for 100K. What they can do though is but a smaller turbo engine in the Z, HP goes up, weight goes down.

kenchan · 04-13-2012, 05:42 PM

everyone notice that i keep agreeing to bruce, yet bruce keeps arguing that there's something wrong with my posts.

wats going on here?

bruce: i think fries needs ketchup
kenchan: absolutely! melted cheeze also goes well.

bruce: no, kenchan...

ketchup and cheeze do not go well together.
kenchan: huh?

brucelidat · 04-13-2012, 05:48 PM

haha, not arguing. just affirming, lol, sorry. trying to work and post at the same time.

brucelidat · 04-13-2012, 05:51 PM

if i ever see charburgers on a menu somewhere, I will definitely order it because of you kenchan

kenchan · 04-13-2012, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat

if i ever see charburgers on a menu somewhere, I will definitely order it because of you kenchan

lol, dont forget the cheeze fries!

brucelidat · 04-13-2012, 05:53 PM

i won't

MattP725 · 04-13-2012, 05:55 PM

And think of what you could do with a base G (say 45-50k) and 50-60k of upgrades... IPL killer? Odd stance.

Now an Infiniti version of the GTR at 110k would be something... same platform with some fit and finish upgrades sort of how the 370 and G37 are... that might sell.

The only IPL I saw was at the brokerage firm I work at and it was being drivin by a lady that appeared to be in her 50s... pretty sure she had a ton of cash and no idea what the car was about, just was the pretty one on the lot.

brucelidat · 04-13-2012, 05:58 PM

an infiniti version of the gt-r will be 130-150k since the gtr is already 100k+, but yes, it would be awesome

LakeShow · 04-13-2012, 06:49 PM

I'm sorry but this is not a good idea for Infiniti. 100k+ Infiniti will not sell. I don't care how fast it is. The GTR only sells because it has a whole legacy and is based on a classic GTR, not to mention its performance. The IPL was a complete failure of a car. Now a Infiniti that costs more than a GTR doesn't make sense. I can guarantee you that it will not be quicker than a GTR. If they are trying to compete with a C63, that's 60-70k not nearly 100k. They are basically in competition with themselves at this point as they build both the cars, and supposed to be in the same factory.
Let me just name a few cars 100-110k if they fancy any of you. 2012 M5, M6, E63, CLS63, Porsche Carrera/S.

brucelidat · 04-13-2012, 06:56 PM

an infiniti might sell if it performed better than the gt-r and was more luxurious and looked sexy (maybe like the essence concept), but obviously not in large numbers. It would definitely have to stand out though and be special. This one we're talking about here, the 100k+ 530 hp G will not sell unless it is in the 60k in betweener level range.

DarkJak · 04-13-2012, 07:08 PM

I don't think it would have to be a big seller either. It could be used to draw more attention to the G's and Infiniti overall, much like the Corvette ZR1. The ZR1 starts at over 110k while the base Corvette starts at 50k. It's a pretty similar leap and I haven't heard anyone consider the ZR1 a flop.

04-13-2012, 05:22 PM	#17 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 31	I'm not saying just looks, but looks are required. If you have a 110k G, you don't want it to look 95% like a 40k G. The rest, improved performance, luxury, etc. is obvious or you wouldn't be buying that G over the other one to begin with. __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

04-13-2012, 05:31 PM	#19 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 31	even a M3 doesn't really stand out form a regular M to most people. But it's also not 100k+. It sits right around where I think people will pay for increased performance without visual exclusivity/rareness. So a 60k G with significantly improved performance would make more sense to me than a 110k G because it's still going to be a G to everyone on the street. __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

04-13-2012, 05:35 PM	#20 (permalink)
ZMan8 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 5,844 Drives: 10 370z 40th M6 Rep Power: 659	The article doesn't actually mention the Z, but yeah most likely they wont put it into the Z because a Z wont sell for 100K. What they can do though is but a smaller turbo engine in the Z, HP goes up, weight goes down. __________________ 2010 370Z 40 Anniv., 6 MT \| Fast Intentions \| Swift Springs \| SPC \| Z1Motorsports \| JWM \| Redline Oils \| 35% Window Tint 2015 Mazda6 \| 370ZChicago: Chicago Area Cars & Coffee

04-13-2012, 05:48 PM	#22 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 31	haha, not arguing. just affirming, lol, sorry. trying to work and post at the same time. __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

04-13-2012, 05:51 PM	#23 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 31	if i ever see charburgers on a menu somewhere, I will definitely order it because of you kenchan __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

04-13-2012, 05:42 PM	#21 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	everyone notice that i keep agreeing to bruce, yet bruce keeps arguing that there's something wrong with my posts. wats going on here? bruce: i think fries needs ketchup kenchan: absolutely! melted cheeze also goes well. bruce: no, kenchan... ketchup and cheeze do not go well together. kenchan: huh?

04-13-2012, 05:53 PM	#25 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 31	i won't __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

04-13-2012, 05:55 PM	#26 (permalink)
MattP725 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Toms River, NJ Posts: 1,904 Drives: 2010 40th Rep Power: 17	And think of what you could do with a base G (say 45-50k) and 50-60k of upgrades... IPL killer? Odd stance. Now an Infiniti version of the GTR at 110k would be something... same platform with some fit and finish upgrades sort of how the 370 and G37 are... that might sell. The only IPL I saw was at the brokerage firm I work at and it was being drivin by a lady that appeared to be in her 50s... pretty sure she had a ton of cash and no idea what the car was about, just was the pretty one on the lot.

04-13-2012, 05:58 PM	#27 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 31	an infiniti version of the gt-r will be 130-150k since the gtr is already 100k+, but yes, it would be awesome __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

04-13-2012, 06:49 PM	#28 (permalink)
LakeShow A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: L.I., NY Posts: 5,307 Drives: Everything Rep Power: 26	I'm sorry but this is not a good idea for Infiniti. 100k+ Infiniti will not sell. I don't care how fast it is. The GTR only sells because it has a whole legacy and is based on a classic GTR, not to mention its performance. The IPL was a complete failure of a car. Now a Infiniti that costs more than a GTR doesn't make sense. I can guarantee you that it will not be quicker than a GTR. If they are trying to compete with a C63, that's 60-70k not nearly 100k. They are basically in competition with themselves at this point as they build both the cars, and supposed to be in the same factory. Let me just name a few cars 100-110k if they fancy any of you. 2012 M5, M6, E63, CLS63, Porsche Carrera/S. __________________ \|2013 Audi S4\|Ibis White/Black\|S-Tronic P+\| \|2013 370z\|PearlWhite/Persimmon\|Touring/Sport/Nav\|F.I. CBE 18" CF\| \|Sold\|2011 370z\|Gun Metallic\|Touring/Sport/Nav\| Last edited by LakeShow; 04-13-2012 at 06:57 PM.

04-13-2012, 06:56 PM	#29 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 31	an infiniti might sell if it performed better than the gt-r and was more luxurious and looked sexy (maybe like the essence concept), but obviously not in large numbers. It would definitely have to stand out though and be special. This one we're talking about here, the 100k+ 530 hp G will not sell unless it is in the 60k in betweener level range. __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

04-13-2012, 07:08 PM	#30 (permalink)
DarkJak A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 1,397 Drives: 2009 370Z Rep Power: 16804	I don't think it would have to be a big seller either. It could be used to draw more attention to the G's and Infiniti overall, much like the Corvette ZR1. The ZR1 starts at over 110k while the base Corvette starts at 50k. It's a pretty similar leap and I haven't heard anyone consider the ZR1 a flop.

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