Sigh i wish there is none in 500 mile radius

The Z shouldn't even be a consideration for your needs. MS3 and look at some WRXs too.

:iagree:

You think?

The ms3 came in fully loaded with tint and clear bra for about 25,500 otd

With where you live and what you do you need something capable in inclement weather that can handle all of your equipment. I'd go for an MS3 or a WRX.

Do you think that's a good deal?

I don't know what they sell for.

Check prices on Truecar.com

They just gave me $200 more for my trade total of 14,000 for my civic seeing thy couldn't discount tint

Usaa gives my car 13,055 kbb is 14,650 good? Plus 3 k off their car?

wut

It uses true price for usaa I believe! Msrp is 27450

If you are buying the car at the USAA price then you are getting a pretty good deal.

Okay good they're also giving me 855$ more for my SI!

get the MS3 already and post some pics!

or consider the WRX :stirthepot:

I like the Si for it's reliability. The MS3 is more performance for what you are paying, however I can't stand the looks and I don't know... the boosted engine + reliability I don't really trust it. That being said, I'm suprised insurance is a problem. Here in Toronto, the Si and MS3 have higher insurance rates than the Z. I pay double for my Si vs. my Z, because the Si is a younger persons car in general.