12' Civic SI or 12' Mazda speed 3

Red370 · 04-12-2012, 07:20 AM

for future upgradeability and best bang for the buck, the MS3 will win every time.

'10Anamoly · 04-12-2012, 07:58 AM

I used to have a MS3. Do not buy it if you plan on modding much beyond a catback. The motors have really bad PCV systems, weak journal bearing turbos and they tend to spark knock a lot. The High Pressure Fuel Pumps are known to lose PSI quickly if boost is raised and can run the motor dangerously lean. I knew six people with aftermarket turbo setups on their cars, all professionally installed/tuned and every single one of them blew their motors due to issues with PVC and crankcase pressure and one guy who didnt upgrade the HPFP.

Safe bet if you get one is to keep the mods minimal, do upgrade the HPFP with the CPE one ($1000!) and upgrade the intercooler if you want to avoid spark knock.

If you leave it stock and get a nice extended warranty, its a fun car for sure. The 08-09's are faster though!

TerribleONE · 04-11-2012, 04:52 PM

k20z3 · 04-11-2012, 04:52 PM

Thanks for your help guys

k20z3 · 04-11-2012, 05:23 PM

Thanks forthr help!

AchilleZ · 04-11-2012, 05:37 PM

Si

Not a fan of rotary engines

k20z3 · 04-11-2012, 05:43 PM

... I thought only the rx8 was a rotary immpretty sure

TerribleONE · 04-11-2012, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AchilleZ

Si

Not a fan of rotary engines

ughhhhh

k20z3 · 04-11-2012, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerribleONE

ughhhhh

Love!

k20z3 · 04-11-2012, 05:45 PM

Yeah dude 4 banging

ZMan8 · 04-11-2012, 05:46 PM

mazda speed 3 is not a rotary, and regarding civic Si I would say no because then you will fall under the Dr. Troll (rapist) category of cars. I personally wouldn't want those stereotypes.

k20z3 · 04-11-2012, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZMan8

mazda speed 3 is not a rotary, and regarding civic Si I would say no because then you will fall under the Dr. Troll (rapist) category of cars. I personally wouldn't want those stereotypes.

who the hell is this ?

Aside from the douche.

Civic SI or ms3

ZMan8 · 04-11-2012, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k20z3

who the hell is this ?

Aside from the douche.

Civic SI or ms3

not sure if seroius.

Did you read the thread started by "Dr. Rapist"

k20z3 · 04-11-2012, 06:28 PM

I'm intrigued !

AchilleZ · 04-11-2012, 05:50 PM

If the MS3 does not have the rotary engine, then yes I would take it over the si

View Poll Results: 2012 - Mazda speed3 or Civic SI
12' Mazdaspeed 3	12	80.00%
12' Honda Civic SI	3	20.00%
Voters: 15. You may not vote on this poll

04-12-2012, 07:20 AM	#1 (permalink)
Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 296	for future upgradeability and best bang for the buck, the MS3 will win every time. __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs

04-12-2012, 07:58 AM	#2 (permalink)
'10Anamoly Track Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: GA Posts: 882 Drives: 2010 370Z BS M6 Rep Power: 16	I used to have a MS3. Do not buy it if you plan on modding much beyond a catback. The motors have really bad PCV systems, weak journal bearing turbos and they tend to spark knock a lot. The High Pressure Fuel Pumps are known to lose PSI quickly if boost is raised and can run the motor dangerously lean. I knew six people with aftermarket turbo setups on their cars, all professionally installed/tuned and every single one of them blew their motors due to issues with PVC and crankcase pressure and one guy who didnt upgrade the HPFP. Safe bet if you get one is to keep the mods minimal, do upgrade the HPFP with the CPE one ($1000!) and upgrade the intercooler if you want to avoid spark knock. If you leave it stock and get a nice extended warranty, its a fun car for sure. The 08-09's are faster though! __________________ 2013 Ford Mustang GT 374rwhp, 360rwtq SAE / GT500 Axle-Backs / Brembo Pack / Track Pack / Recaros / 6spd Last edited by '10Anamoly; 04-12-2012 at 08:00 AM.

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k20z3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Denver CO Age: 34 Posts: 2,146 Drives: 2006 Civic SI HFP Rep Power: 405	Thanks for your help guys __________________ 2006 RALLYE RED HONDA CIVIC SI HFP Clint's Helpful Photoshop Hints!

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k20z3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Denver CO Age: 34 Posts: 2,146 Drives: 2006 Civic SI HFP Rep Power: 405	Thanks forthr help! __________________ 2006 RALLYE RED HONDA CIVIC SI HFP Clint's Helpful Photoshop Hints!

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AchilleZ Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Whittier Posts: 61 Drives: 2010 370z roadster Rep Power: 14	Si Not a fan of rotary engines __________________

04-11-2012, 05:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
k20z3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Denver CO Age: 34 Posts: 2,146 Drives: 2006 Civic SI HFP Rep Power: 405	... I thought only the rx8 was a rotary immpretty sure __________________ 2006 RALLYE RED HONDA CIVIC SI HFP Clint's Helpful Photoshop Hints!

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k20z3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Denver CO Age: 34 Posts: 2,146 Drives: 2006 Civic SI HFP Rep Power: 405	Yeah dude 4 banging __________________ 2006 RALLYE RED HONDA CIVIC SI HFP Clint's Helpful Photoshop Hints!

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ZMan8 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 5,844 Drives: 10 370z 40th M6 Rep Power: 659	mazda speed 3 is not a rotary, and regarding civic Si I would say no because then you will fall under the Dr. Troll (rapist) category of cars. I personally wouldn't want those stereotypes. __________________ 2010 370Z 40 Anniv., 6 MT \| Fast Intentions \| Swift Springs \| SPC \| Z1Motorsports \| JWM \| Redline Oils \| 35% Window Tint 2015 Mazda6 \| 370ZChicago: Chicago Area Cars & Coffee

04-11-2012, 06:28 PM	#14 (permalink)
k20z3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Denver CO Age: 34 Posts: 2,146 Drives: 2006 Civic SI HFP Rep Power: 405	I'm intrigued ! __________________ 2006 RALLYE RED HONDA CIVIC SI HFP Clint's Helpful Photoshop Hints!

04-11-2012, 05:50 PM	#15 (permalink)
AchilleZ Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Whittier Posts: 61 Drives: 2010 370z roadster Rep Power: 14	If the MS3 does not have the rotary engine, then yes I would take it over the si __________________

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