Originally Posted by CC_370z (Post 1620673)

Get a Corvette.:happydance:

Originally Posted by Nismodean (Post 1620533)

Bite your tongue child!
Top Gear Track lap records - FastestLaps.com
Use CTRL + F and type in STI or EVO X.

For the 370Z
Nissan 370Z lap times and specs - FastestLaps.com

The "slower than" section is a bit off though. The Mini Cooper S was placed in the wrong category. I have no idea how the 2011 Ford Mustang GT 5.0 is faster than the 370Z, especially on the track (solid rear BLOWS CHUNKS)! Every 2011+ 5.0 in my area knows their place when they see me, eyes forward, both hands on the wheel, and let me pass! :stirthepot:

Originally Posted by Nismodean (Post 1620533)

Bite your tongue child!
Top Gear Track lap records - FastestLaps.com
Use CTRL + F and type in STI or EVO X.

For the 370Z
Nissan 370Z lap times and specs - FastestLaps.com

The "slower than" section is a bit off though. The Mini Cooper S was placed in the wrong category. I have no idea how the 2011 Ford Mustang GT 5.0 is faster than the 370Z, especially on the track (solid rear BLOWS CHUNKS)! Every 2011+ 5.0 in my area knows their place when they see me, eyes forward, both hands on the wheel, and let me pass! :stirthepot:

Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 1620849)

I am not a mustang fan by any means... but I would stay away from those 5.0s.. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Nismodean (Post 1620533)

Bite your tongue child!
Top Gear Track lap records - FastestLaps.com
Use CTRL + F and type in STI or EVO X.

For the 370Z
Nissan 370Z lap times and specs - FastestLaps.com

The "slower than" section is a bit off though. The Mini Cooper S was placed in the wrong category. I have no idea how the 2011 Ford Mustang GT 5.0 is faster than the 370Z, especially on the track (solid rear BLOWS CHUNKS)! Every 2011+ 5.0 in my area knows their place when they see me, eyes forward, both hands on the wheel, and let me pass! :stirthepot:

Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 1620934)

on the STI vs 370Z side of things... Every person I know with a subie has had nothing but problems, broken axles, blown diffs, motors going... I have driven them many times and while they are a blast to drive I personally prefer RWD. Go test drive both and see what you feel... Remember that the STI feels faster than it really is due to the turbo... AWD is great until you get addicted to axis spins and go through tires like crazy! I would personally rather have the Z as I feel the car is more fun to drive and if you like spirited driving I feel the Z is safer despite what people say.. AWD is awesome until it lets go and many people seem to over correct due to the front wheels pulling you away from the slide.. just my .02 cents

Originally Posted by Sibze (Post 1620973)

Soooooooooo whats everyone doing in here? :wtf2:

Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 1620934)

on the STI vs 370Z side of things... Every person I know with a subie has had nothing but problems, broken axles, blown diffs, motors going... I have driven them many times and while they are a blast to drive I personally prefer RWD. Go test drive both and see what you feel... Remember that the STI feels faster than it really is due to the turbo... AWD is great until you get addicted to axis spins and go through tires like crazy! I would personally rather have the Z as I feel the car is more fun to drive and if you like spirited driving I feel the Z is safer despite what people say.. AWD is awesome until it lets go and many people seem to over correct due to the front wheels pulling you away from the slide.. just my .02 cents

Originally Posted by phelan (Post 1621117)

as a lucky owner i have both a wrx and a z. yes, not an STi, but as mentioned previously, it's not like the difference is that big.

Originally Posted by phelan (Post 1621117)

having a good discussion. you?



really? all of my subie friends are all okay. i know people who have everything from the gc8 until the latest grb / gh8, and they're fine. everybody freaked out over the 2008 ringland issue, but that was for the most part resolved. the people i know who have issues are the ones who messed with their engines without ever learning what "leaning out" means. be prepared for a strange world where everybody <3s exhausts and free HP...but anything more will rip a humongous hole in your wallet.

as a lucky owner i have both a wrx and a z. yes, not an STi, but as mentioned previously, it's not like the difference is that big. yes, the transmission is different and the WRX obviously gets the short end of the stick in that department, but aside from the transmission there really isn't much different. even the body panels are the same. and personally, i drive the subaru EVERYWHERE. even to z meets :rofl2: don't get me wrong the Z is a fun car but it's exactly that...a fun car. weekend warrior to me. if you want something more practical, the hatch WRX / STi is a good car.

and can't compare the z cars being more safe because AWD lets go, this and that happens. that's just people needing to learn more about their cars. driver knowledge goes a long way.

Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 1621126)

Maybe my friends just abused them.. but yea I have seen tons of horror stories. I still <3 subies though.

Originally Posted by phelan (Post 1621132)

bad press does tend to go farther in the media :p

i'm quite happy with my subaru. although it was angry at me when i tried to do an AWD drift at a track event. subarus aren't meant to drift unless it's over snow / inclement weather :rofl2:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1621139)

Well, you just need to have more power to drift it on dry pavement. :p

It's like if I tried to do a burnout in the S2000. :bowrofl: