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Rally 01-29-2012 06:23 PM

Camaro ZL1 Thoughts/News
 
Am I the only one excited for the upcoming release of the camaro zl1? I mean
Pros.
1. The numbers this thing are putting out are pretty sweet. 0-60 in 3.9. 1/4 in 12 flat! And top speed of 184. Those are pretty impressive if you ask me. And to me the by far most impressive number is the nurburgring lap time of 7:41.27. Which is amazing to see from a car of this price and weight.
2. The styling is awesome. Really, really aggressive. Everything form the rims to the hood is aggressive.

Neutral.
1. Interior. I'm not sure if I like it or not. I mean it's definitely above the likes of corvettes. But it sort of still looks like a rental car. Not as much as it used too but still kinda. I think the Z has a lot better interior but thats mostly because of the gauges/wild styling.
2. It's a camaro. As stupid as this sounds, camaros don't get a lot of respect where I live and I don't know if the aggressive styling of the Zl1 is enough to differentiate itself from the already aggressive camaro.

Cons.
1. WEIGHT! I don't care how much HP you put into a car I don't like heavy cars. Heck for the size of the 370z I would prefer it to be around 75-100 lbs. lighter. But I know that would probably be impossible with the 370z's price. But I honestly don't care about the weight if it can beat a Z06 around the nurburgring.
2. Ok I'll say it... It's a chevy. 'Nough said.

What are you alls thoughts on it? To me it's a great middle between the 370z and GTR and it sorta beats the z06 in every category especially since it's 20k cheaper... Oh and the reason I didn't mention the mustang in this comparison is because I would never consider buying a mustang (Unless it's a classic) for a number of reasons.:stirthepot:
And i'm :excited: waiting for this car!

GaleForce 01-29-2012 06:31 PM

It is a beast. My wife works in the plant that builds them.

Anyhow, another Con - the price! I personally think it's too expensive.

I wouldn't consider buying one. It's still a chevy. I would rather a used GTR or P-car. Actually I wouldn't even trade my Z for it. But that's just me.

Red__Zed 01-29-2012 06:33 PM

2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 vs 2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca - Comparison - Motor Trend


'nuff said

GaleForce 01-29-2012 06:51 PM

I'll admit, I've never been a Ford guy, but I love the look of the new style Mustangs...

Pharmacist 01-29-2012 07:38 PM

nice car. it's quite refreshing to see americans making cars that won't fly into a ditch at the first sign of a corner. but for the price, i wouldn't get a boss or zl1. I'd get a used corvette z06 which i believe is the most track-ready of the bunch. as for the interior, i think they all suck equally, so that's not an issue.

theDreamer 01-29-2012 07:40 PM

Good car, but the problem is they are taking a heavy car and throwing power at it. While they have done extensive work on the suspension and weight balance to help, you still have a fat heavy car. Now, the GT-R is heavy and fast, but it was designed that way, where the Camaro was more or less not.

Also, who loved the slap in the face Ford did when GM announced the ZL1 and Ford then released all the GT500 specs for next year. :stirthepot:

280z/300zx 01-29-2012 07:45 PM

My girlfriend currently has a Camaro 2SS 6-speed. We will be considering trading in for ZL1 in the next 1-2 years. I myself will be in the market for the C7 Vette around that time, unless Nissan wows me with the next gen Z. For now my 370z is enough. The GT-R is the next logical choice for me but with no true manual tranny I'll probably be going domestic for the first time

MC 01-30-2012 12:18 AM

Road and Track just tested it against the 2013 GTR ( not that that made alot of sense)

http://www.nagtroc.org/files/attachm..._2013_GT-R.pdf


iver seen it range from 13.0 to 12.1 in the 1/4 from different mags

frost 01-30-2012 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MC (Post 1515927)
Road and Track just tested it against the 2013 GTR ( not that that made alot of sense)

http://www.nagtroc.org/files/attachm..._2013_GT-R.pdf


iver seen it range from 13.0 to 12.1 in the 1/4 from different mags

13? Did they do it in reverse? :icon17:

MC 01-30-2012 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frost (Post 1515933)
13? Did they do it in reverse? :icon17:

yeah i know.. if you look at the chart it was at 4400 altitude.. that couldnt have helped


and then there was this....

:shakes head:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9Nv7yLRjJo



but then like i said motor trend got a 12.1 @117 with a 3.8 0-60... thats about what i had expected...

this thing has some sort of launch control and maybe some arnt doing it right i dunno... from the reviews so far it doesnt seem to be very consistent

frost 01-30-2012 12:38 AM

I was waiting for him to total it :icon17:

MC 01-30-2012 12:43 AM

oh no i would have used a better smiley if so... just real bad drag racing

i thought this article described the launch control well ...seems interesting.. its a no lift to shift manual in that mode too

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/01/24/2...-drive-review/

FL 4Motion 01-30-2012 01:10 AM

It's priced around the same as the GT500 no? GT500 is a better car imo, esp if the price point is similiar.

frost 01-30-2012 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1515978)
It's priced around the same as the GT500 no? GT500 is a better car imo, esp if the price point is similiar.

Better how?

FL 4Motion 01-30-2012 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frost (Post 1515981)
Better how?

more hp and tq, 200mph top speed, i think a bit lighter weight, probably not much tho.

Subjective, the 'stang interior is the best out of the pony cars.


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