Camaro ZL1 Thoughts/News

Rally · 01-29-2012, 07:23 PM

Am I the only one excited for the upcoming release of the camaro zl1? I mean
Pros.
1. The numbers this thing are putting out are pretty sweet. 0-60 in 3.9. 1/4 in 12 flat! And top speed of 184. Those are pretty impressive if you ask me. And to me the by far most impressive number is the nurburgring lap time of 7:41.27. Which is amazing to see from a car of this price and weight.
2. The styling is awesome. Really, really aggressive. Everything form the rims to the hood is aggressive.

Neutral.
1. Interior. I'm not sure if I like it or not. I mean it's definitely above the likes of corvettes. But it sort of still looks like a rental car. Not as much as it used too but still kinda. I think the Z has a lot better interior but thats mostly because of the gauges/wild styling.
2. It's a camaro. As stupid as this sounds, camaros don't get a lot of respect where I live and I don't know if the aggressive styling of the Zl1 is enough to differentiate itself from the already aggressive camaro.

Cons.
1. WEIGHT! I don't care how much HP you put into a car I don't like heavy cars. Heck for the size of the 370z I would prefer it to be around 75-100 lbs. lighter. But I know that would probably be impossible with the 370z's price. But I honestly don't care about the weight if it can beat a Z06 around the nurburgring.
2. Ok I'll say it... It's a chevy. 'Nough said.

What are you alls thoughts on it? To me it's a great middle between the 370z and GTR and it sorta beats the z06 in every category especially since it's 20k cheaper... Oh and the reason I didn't mention the mustang in this comparison is because I would never consider buying a mustang (Unless it's a classic) for a number of reasons.

And i'm

waiting for this car!

GaleForce · 01-29-2012, 07:31 PM

It is a beast. My wife works in the plant that builds them.

Anyhow, another Con - the price! I personally think it's too expensive.

I wouldn't consider buying one. It's still a chevy. I would rather a used GTR or P-car. Actually I wouldn't even trade my Z for it. But that's just me.

Red__Zed · 01-29-2012, 07:33 PM

2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 vs 2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca - Comparison - Motor Trend

'nuff said

GaleForce · 01-29-2012, 07:51 PM

I'll admit, I've never been a Ford guy, but I love the look of the new style Mustangs...

Pharmacist · 01-29-2012, 08:38 PM

nice car. it's quite refreshing to see americans making cars that won't fly into a ditch at the first sign of a corner. but for the price, i wouldn't get a boss or zl1. I'd get a used corvette z06 which i believe is the most track-ready of the bunch. as for the interior, i think they all suck equally, so that's not an issue.

theDreamer · 01-29-2012, 08:40 PM

Good car, but the problem is they are taking a heavy car and throwing power at it. While they have done extensive work on the suspension and weight balance to help, you still have a fat heavy car. Now, the GT-R is heavy and fast, but it was designed that way, where the Camaro was more or less not.

Also, who loved the slap in the face Ford did when GM announced the ZL1 and Ford then released all the GT500 specs for next year.

280z/300zx · 01-29-2012, 08:45 PM

My girlfriend currently has a Camaro 2SS 6-speed. We will be considering trading in for ZL1 in the next 1-2 years. I myself will be in the market for the C7 Vette around that time, unless Nissan wows me with the next gen Z. For now my 370z is enough. The GT-R is the next logical choice for me but with no true manual tranny I'll probably be going domestic for the first time

MC · 01-30-2012, 01:18 AM

Road and Track just tested it against the 2013 GTR ( not that that made alot of sense)

http://www.nagtroc.org/files/attachm..._2013_GT-R.pdf

iver seen it range from 13.0 to 12.1 in the 1/4 from different mags

frost · 01-30-2012, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MC

Road and Track just tested it against the 2013 GTR ( not that that made alot of sense)

http://www.nagtroc.org/files/attachm..._2013_GT-R.pdf

iver seen it range from 13.0 to 12.1 in the 1/4 from different mags

13? Did they do it in reverse?

MC · 01-30-2012, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frost

13? Did they do it in reverse?

yeah i know.. if you look at the chart it was at 4400 altitude.. that couldnt have helped

and then there was this....

but then like i said motor trend got a 12.1 @117 with a 3.8 0-60... thats about what i had expected...

this thing has some sort of launch control and maybe some arnt doing it right i dunno... from the reviews so far it doesnt seem to be very consistent

frost · 01-30-2012, 01:38 AM

I was waiting for him to total it

MC · 01-30-2012, 01:43 AM

oh no i would have used a better smiley if so... just real bad drag racing

i thought this article described the launch control well ...seems interesting.. its a no lift to shift manual in that mode too

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/01/24/2...-drive-review/

FL 4Motion · 01-30-2012, 02:10 AM

It's priced around the same as the GT500 no? GT500 is a better car imo, esp if the price point is similiar.

frost · 01-30-2012, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

It's priced around the same as the GT500 no? GT500 is a better car imo, esp if the price point is similiar.

Better how?

FL 4Motion · 01-30-2012, 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frost

Better how?

more hp and tq, 200mph top speed, i think a bit lighter weight, probably not much tho.

Subjective, the 'stang interior is the best out of the pony cars.

01-29-2012, 07:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
Rally Base Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: TX Posts: 24 Drives: - Rep Power: 14	Camaro ZL1 Thoughts/News Am I the only one excited for the upcoming release of the camaro zl1? I mean Pros. 1. The numbers this thing are putting out are pretty sweet. 0-60 in 3.9. 1/4 in 12 flat! And top speed of 184. Those are pretty impressive if you ask me. And to me the by far most impressive number is the nurburgring lap time of 7:41.27. Which is amazing to see from a car of this price and weight. 2. The styling is awesome. Really, really aggressive. Everything form the rims to the hood is aggressive. Neutral. 1. Interior. I'm not sure if I like it or not. I mean it's definitely above the likes of corvettes. But it sort of still looks like a rental car. Not as much as it used too but still kinda. I think the Z has a lot better interior but thats mostly because of the gauges/wild styling. 2. It's a camaro. As stupid as this sounds, camaros don't get a lot of respect where I live and I don't know if the aggressive styling of the Zl1 is enough to differentiate itself from the already aggressive camaro. Cons. 1. WEIGHT! I don't care how much HP you put into a car I don't like heavy cars. Heck for the size of the 370z I would prefer it to be around 75-100 lbs. lighter. But I know that would probably be impossible with the 370z's price. But I honestly don't care about the weight if it can beat a Z06 around the nurburgring. 2. Ok I'll say it... It's a chevy. 'Nough said. What are you alls thoughts on it? To me it's a great middle between the 370z and GTR and it sorta beats the z06 in every category especially since it's 20k cheaper... Oh and the reason I didn't mention the mustang in this comparison is because I would never consider buying a mustang (Unless it's a classic) for a number of reasons. And i'm waiting for this car!

01-29-2012, 07:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
GaleForce A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 21,749 Drives: Varis Arising II Rep Power: 51865	It is a beast. My wife works in the plant that builds them. Anyhow, another Con - the price! I personally think it's too expensive. I wouldn't consider buying one. It's still a chevy. I would rather a used GTR or P-car. Actually I wouldn't even trade my Z for it. But that's just me. __________________ >>>GaleForce's Build<<< >>>FaceBook @3GsCustoms<<<>>>Instagram @GaleForce370z<<< Varis Kamikaze-Z

01-29-2012, 07:51 PM	#4 (permalink)
GaleForce A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 21,749 Drives: Varis Arising II Rep Power: 51865	I'll admit, I've never been a Ford guy, but I love the look of the new style Mustangs... __________________ >>>GaleForce's Build<<< >>>FaceBook @3GsCustoms<<<>>>Instagram @GaleForce370z<<< Varis Kamikaze-Z

01-29-2012, 08:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
Pharmacist A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 1,249 Drives: 09 370z Sport 6MT Rep Power: 18	nice car. it's quite refreshing to see americans making cars that won't fly into a ditch at the first sign of a corner. but for the price, i wouldn't get a boss or zl1. I'd get a used corvette z06 which i believe is the most track-ready of the bunch. as for the interior, i think they all suck equally, so that's not an issue. __________________ 2009 370z Sport Touring/Nismo shift Knob/Z1 motorsports 34 row oil cooler

01-29-2012, 08:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Good car, but the problem is they are taking a heavy car and throwing power at it. While they have done extensive work on the suspension and weight balance to help, you still have a fat heavy car. Now, the GT-R is heavy and fast, but it was designed that way, where the Camaro was more or less not. Also, who loved the slap in the face Ford did when GM announced the ZL1 and Ford then released all the GT500 specs for next year. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

01-29-2012, 07:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 vs 2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca - Comparison - Motor Trend 'nuff said

01-29-2012, 08:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
280z/300zx Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Nevada Posts: 689 Drives: 280z, 300zx, Vette Rep Power: 272	My girlfriend currently has a Camaro 2SS 6-speed. We will be considering trading in for ZL1 in the next 1-2 years. I myself will be in the market for the C7 Vette around that time, unless Nissan wows me with the next gen Z. For now my 370z is enough. The GT-R is the next logical choice for me but with no true manual tranny I'll probably be going domestic for the first time

01-30-2012, 01:18 AM	#8 (permalink)
MC Moderator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NC Posts: 3,238 Drives: 2015 GTR NISMO Rep Power: 24	Road and Track just tested it against the 2013 GTR ( not that that made alot of sense) http://www.nagtroc.org/files/attachm..._2013_GT-R.pdf iver seen it range from 13.0 to 12.1 in the 1/4 from different mags __________________ 2015 GT-R N1SMO "THE ONE" Instagram MCGTRN1SMO Youtube MCGTRNISMO

01-30-2012, 01:43 AM	#12 (permalink)
MC Moderator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NC Posts: 3,238 Drives: 2015 GTR NISMO Rep Power: 24	oh no i would have used a better smiley if so... just real bad drag racing i thought this article described the launch control well ...seems interesting.. its a no lift to shift manual in that mode too http://www.autoblog.com/2012/01/24/2...-drive-review/ __________________ 2015 GT-R N1SMO "THE ONE" Instagram MCGTRN1SMO Youtube MCGTRNISMO Last edited by MC; 01-30-2012 at 01:48 AM.

01-30-2012, 02:10 AM	#13 (permalink)
FL 4Motion A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: FL Posts: 4,776 Drives: Baby Shark Rep Power: 701615	It's priced around the same as the GT500 no? GT500 is a better car imo, esp if the price point is similiar.

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