Camaro ZL1 Thoughts/News

Red370 · 01-30-2012, 06:59 AM

if its priced similarly, the 13' GT500 will most likely beat it performance wise in every respect, better deal IMHO, I mean, 650hp and 600 ft/lbs on a bulletproof block with unlimited mod potential is pretty damn hard to beat.

sboden · 01-30-2012, 08:33 AM

I'm guessing (nothing to back this up) the GT500 price will go up. Also more horsepower doesn't always equal more performance especially in handling. I've also have not been a mustang lover. Primarily because they are all over the place where I live. Having said that, I would take the Boss and GT500 (old and upcoming) over the ZL1 in the looks department. I like the route GM went but the car just looks heavy. I like sleek looks more.

Lug · 01-30-2012, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by sboden

I'm guessing (nothing to back this up) the GT500 price will go up. Also more horsepower doesn't always equal more performance especially in handling. I've also have not been a mustang lover. Primarily because they are all over the place where I live. Having said that, I would take the Boss and GT500 (old and upcoming) over the ZL1 in the looks department. I like the route GM went but the car just looks heavy. I like sleek looks more.

The current GT500 had an MSRP of about $49,000 for the basic model and about 53,000 loaded. Unless it goes up quite a bit, it's pretty close to a wash on price.

roplusbee · 01-30-2012, 01:06 PM

As far as the ZL1 goes, it looks to me like thay used a good deal of Pontiac's G8 guts in it. That should translate to a pretty tight vehicle. As far as after sales service, there are some good dealers in Central TX. I am sure that it will be pretty good. The price tag scares me though, lol!

vividracing · 01-30-2012, 01:34 PM

I refuse to buy a new Chevy, but this car sounds impressive.

6MT · 01-30-2012, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing

I refuse to buy a new Chevy, but this car sounds impressive.

Probably a killer in straight-line performance.

m4a1mustang · 01-30-2012, 01:55 PM

ZL1 performance is impressive. It's going to be cool when they can do a ZL1 vs. 2013 GT500 shootout.

b1adesofcha0s · 01-30-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

ZL1 performance is impressive. It's going to be cool when they can do a ZL1 vs. 2013 GT500 shootout.

That's the only one that matters with the ZL1

NissanUSA · 01-30-2012, 08:29 PM

The funny thing is that I always thought Camaro's were pretty small. Which I wondered why they weighed so much when they were so small. Just looked at the comparison between it and the GTR and can't believe that it's heavier and bigger than it! Really shocked me.
EDIT: And I still think the exterior of a camaro destroys the exterior of the mustang. To me the mustang is below the camaro and challenger in looks. Besides the rear taillights. I do like them

nuTinmuch · 01-30-2012, 09:06 PM

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Probably a killer in straight-line performance.

And in corners, which isn't new.

I really don't understand the GM-bashing. Pretty sure you could take this to the track without the brakes exploding.

I personally don't like Camaros, but I like Vettes, and I'm still hoping for a Cruze SS.

frost · 01-30-2012, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by nuTinmuch

And in corners, which isn't new.

I really don't understand the GM-bashing. Pretty sure you could take this to the track without the brakes exploding.

I personally don't like Camaros, but I like Vettes, and I'm still hoping for a Cruze SS.

If my GMs had a 370z interior, I would have never left them!

NissanUSA · 01-30-2012, 09:39 PM

Oh and since were talking about GM cars and stuff heres something hilarious. Kelley Blue Book
Scroll down to the interior section...
The corvette only uses the "highest quality parts and trim" ahahaha. I found that hilarious

ImportConvert · 01-31-2012, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by NissanUSA

Oh and since were talking about GM cars and stuff heres something hilarious. Kelley Blue Book
Scroll down to the interior section...
The corvette only uses the "highest quality parts and trim" ahahaha. I found that hilarious

While we are talking about being a ****, scroll down until you see the description of the 370Z's "slick shifting manual"

Kelley Blue Book

HILARIOUS!

Pharmacist · 01-31-2012, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by NissanUSA

Oh and since were talking about GM cars and stuff heres something hilarious. Kelley Blue Book
Scroll down to the interior section...
The corvette only uses the "highest quality parts and trim" ahahaha. I found that hilarious

Quote:

The Corvette's seats are surprisingly supportive

ImportConvert · 01-31-2012, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rally

Am I the only one excited for the upcoming release of the camaro zl1? I mean
Pros.
1. The numbers this thing are putting out are pretty sweet. 0-60 in 3.9. 1/4 in 12 flat! And top speed of 184. Those are pretty impressive if you ask me. And to me the by far most impressive number is the nurburgring lap time of 7:41.27. Which is amazing to see from a car of this price and weight.
2. The styling is awesome. Really, really aggressive. Everything form the rims to the hood is aggressive.

Neutral.
1. Interior. I'm not sure if I like it or not. I mean it's definitely above the likes of corvettes. But it sort of still looks like a rental car. Not as much as it used too but still kinda. I think the Z has a lot better interior but thats mostly because of the gauges/wild styling.
2. It's a camaro. As stupid as this sounds, camaros don't get a lot of respect where I live and I don't know if the aggressive styling of the Zl1 is enough to differentiate itself from the already aggressive camaro.

Cons.
1. WEIGHT! I don't care how much HP you put into a car I don't like heavy cars. Heck for the size of the 370z I would prefer it to be around 75-100 lbs. lighter. But I know that would probably be impossible with the 370z's price. But I honestly don't care about the weight if it can beat a Z06 around the nurburgring.
2. Ok I'll say it... It's a chevy. 'Nough said.

What are you alls thoughts on it? To me it's a great middle between the 370z and GTR and it sorta beats the z06 in every category especially since it's 20k cheaper... Oh and the reason I didn't mention the mustang in this comparison is because I would never consider buying a mustang (Unless it's a classic) for a number of reasons.

And i'm

waiting for this car!

The Z06 laps the 'ring in the 7:20's.

My issue with it is purely looks. I think the GT500 is a much sexier car.

01-30-2012, 06:59 AM	#1 (permalink)
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01-30-2012, 08:33 AM	#2 (permalink)
sboden Track Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kansas City Posts: 580 Drives: 09 Blue 370Z T/S 6MT Rep Power: 17	I'm guessing (nothing to back this up) the GT500 price will go up. Also more horsepower doesn't always equal more performance especially in handling. I've also have not been a mustang lover. Primarily because they are all over the place where I live. Having said that, I would take the Boss and GT500 (old and upcoming) over the ZL1 in the looks department. I like the route GM went but the car just looks heavy. I like sleek looks more. __________________ 09 Monterey Blue 370Z Sport/Tour, Takeda Shorties, Blk Nismo Wheels, Blk Painted Top/Exhaust cut out, Invidia Gemini CBE, Southbend Stage 2 clutch, Lite weight flywheel, Zspeed HD CSC, flat black headlights. Previously owned 03 G35 Coupe 6MT and Volvo C30 R Design.

01-30-2012, 01:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
roplusbee A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Killeen, TX Posts: 2,360 Drives: 2007 350Z NISMO Rep Power: 23	As far as the ZL1 goes, it looks to me like thay used a good deal of Pontiac's G8 guts in it. That should translate to a pretty tight vehicle. As far as after sales service, there are some good dealers in Central TX. I am sure that it will be pretty good. The price tag scares me though, lol! __________________ 2007 350Z NISMO #0618: Zerolift \| UPREV \| F.I. \| Greddy \| Competition Clutch \| Injector Dynamics \| Aeromotive \| Pioneer \| JL

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	ZL1 performance is impressive. It's going to be cool when they can do a ZL1 vs. 2013 GT500 shootout. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

01-30-2012, 08:29 PM	#9 (permalink)
NissanUSA Base Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Franklin, Tenesse Posts: 37 Drives: . Rep Power: 14	The funny thing is that I always thought Camaro's were pretty small. Which I wondered why they weighed so much when they were so small. Just looked at the comparison between it and the GTR and can't believe that it's heavier and bigger than it! Really shocked me. EDIT: And I still think the exterior of a camaro destroys the exterior of the mustang. To me the mustang is below the camaro and challenger in looks. Besides the rear taillights. I do like them

01-30-2012, 09:39 PM	#12 (permalink)
NissanUSA Base Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Franklin, Tenesse Posts: 37 Drives: . Rep Power: 14	Oh and since were talking about GM cars and stuff heres something hilarious. Kelley Blue Book Scroll down to the interior section... The corvette only uses the "highest quality parts and trim" ahahaha. I found that hilarious

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