if its priced similarly, the 13' GT500 will most likely beat it performance wise in every respect, better deal IMHO, I mean, 650hp and 600 ft/lbs on a bulletproof block with unlimited mod potential is pretty damn hard to beat.

I'm guessing (nothing to back this up) the GT500 price will go up. Also more horsepower doesn't always equal more performance especially in handling. I've also have not been a mustang lover. Primarily because they are all over the place where I live. Having said that, I would take the Boss and GT500 (old and upcoming) over the ZL1 in the looks department. I like the route GM went but the car just looks heavy. I like sleek looks more.

The current GT500 had an MSRP of about $49,000 for the basic model and about 53,000 loaded. Unless it goes up quite a bit, it's pretty close to a wash on price.

If you like straight-line speed. Too big and clumsy to be worthwhile on windy roads IMHO. Plus, build quality... well you know... it's a G.M..

To be fair, it is being built in the #1 plant for quality and productivity in North America. The initial quality is there.

What worries me is the after purchase service. GM service is horrible. For me after sales service is one of the major factors in my decision when buying a new car. Even with an employee discount, it's not worth the headache I get from GM service to be bothered with their cars.

You didn't read the Motor Trend head to head between the Boss and the ZL1. It beat the Boss in all categories except price. The ZL1 with the weight handles pretty darn good. GM did a very good job on it. Lots of people have knocked GM's reliability. It is mostly a thing of the past. I did not own a domestic vehicle from 93 to 05. I leased all my vehicles, so in that time frame I drove a lot of different non domestic brands: Volvo, Nissan, Mitsubishi, Infiniti, and Honda to name some of them. Since 05 I've drove 1 Dodge (Magnum with Hemi), 1 Saturn (Sky Redline), 2 GMC's (Acadia, Terrain both wife's cars). The only issue I've had with anything other than the Sky was a Nav issue with the Terrain which is Pioneer's fault. GM replaced the head unit with no problem. The Sky had several issues but was also a first year release. I guess what I'm saying is I've had no more issues with the domestic vehicles than I had with the non domestic vehicles. People need to move on.

As far as the ZL1 goes, it looks to me like thay used a good deal of Pontiac's G8 guts in it. That should translate to a pretty tight vehicle. As far as after sales service, there are some good dealers in Central TX. I am sure that it will be pretty good. The price tag scares me though, lol!

I refuse to buy a new Chevy, but this car sounds impressive.

ZL1 performance is impressive. It's going to be cool when they can do a ZL1 vs. 2013 GT500 shootout.

:werd: That's the only one that matters with the ZL1

Point taken. But I will never defend GM's build quality. And for that reason, I'll never buy another GM again. To each their own.

:iagree:Probably a killer in straight-line performance.

The funny thing is that I always thought Camaro's were pretty small. Which I wondered why they weighed so much when they were so small. Just looked at the comparison between it and the GTR and can't believe that it's heavier and bigger than it! Really shocked me.
EDIT: And I still think the exterior of a camaro destroys the exterior of the mustang. To me the mustang is below the camaro and challenger in looks. Besides the rear taillights. I do like them :p

And in corners, which isn't new.

I really don't understand the GM-bashing. Pretty sure you could take this to the track without the brakes exploding. :p

I personally don't like Camaros, but I like Vettes, and I'm still hoping for a Cruze SS.

If my GMs had a 370z interior, I would have never left them!