Over priced... I would rather buy a 5.0 over this for that price.

It's still cheaper than the 5.0

Yep. You can add spoiler Nav strut bars etc, but theyll usually show up at the dealer with carpet mats and pwr options

Maybe. I just saw on one of the forums yesterday that some guy paid a bit over $25.5k for a base model 5.0 with the automatic transmission option.

There are a bunch of cars that are going to overlap in price with the BRZ/FRS methinks.

Idk but the frs will sell regardless. I've already got 3 deposits

No doubt it will.

Not what I wanted to hear...those stock wheels are fugly (and too small). Might have to wait for the Subaru version.

subaru comes with the same wheels

i didnt believe this but its true the FRS and BRZ come stock with the same tires from the prius...

i think i also read where the BRZ comes with NAV and a few other interior things like that and might be priced a little more than the scion

:wtf:... :facepalm:

I do belive the toyobaru should be lower in price.

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It is still cheaper by a marginal amount that I would still buy a 5.0 over this.

It should be cheaper in the states than Japan because no one will buy this ...and the gt premium model :gtfo2: with that price.

what toyota(scion)/subaru should have done is make this <$20,000 for the base model and $25,000 for the best model (non turbo) $28,000 for best & turbo. Then these things would fly of the lots

I agree. When all is said and done I still have a feeling this car will be a total fail. Don't get me wrong...I think it looks decent and I'll probably test drive one but you have to give people some trim level options. I don't think the OSFA approach Scion is taking will go over very well. That may be part of the reason the brand is struggling to begin with. I think putting it under Scion instead of Toyota is a HUGE mistake. They claim the point is to prop up the struggling Scion brand. They would have been better off giving the Scion brand the axe all together. With all the hype surrounding this car for the last couple of years, they are setting themselves up for a huge disappointment.

they poster said he didnt like the FRS wheels and would wait on the subaru version...i said the BRZ variant has the same wheels

then speaking of wheels i added a little fun conversational fact that these cars run the same Michelin tire as the prius.. something you wouldnt think of considering its a sportscar