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Thinking of trading the Z for a GT-R

So I have been saving up to do a major overhaul on the Z but now that I am at that point of spending the money I have been thinking about getting a GT-R instead... Might be a low mileage used GT-R...

What do you all think? go for it or stick with the Z?

*Update (as I was writing this)
I got the green light from the old lady:happydance:

test drive it and see the difference :)

I depends on what you plan to do/want from your car honestly.

However, all things being equal, GTR over Z all day imo.

If you really want the GT-R and you can afford the maintenance costs, then go for it. Remember, owning a GT-R is considerably more expensive than the Z; all the aftermarket replacement parts are better and considerably cheaper than OEM when it comes to brakes, but a full brake job will still cost you around $1500/axle. Tires are over $500 each and they wear very quickly if you drive hard. There are quite a few other ancillary costs that rack up as well.

They're fun cars to drive; not as engaging as the Z, but fun nonetheless. Definitely attention-getters when you're out in public.

The GT-R is an awesome platform... it's hard to beat. I'd go that route.

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Originally Posted by 370Ztune (Post 1505410)

I have looked into it and it is pretty expensive compared to the Z but thankfully I have a job where I can afford it.

I may be a young gun but I have always been smart with my money and stayed within my means and thats why I plan to get a used GT-R and not a new one... up front cost for a new gt-r is not affordable for me.

If you can.. Why not? Personally I would rather have a modded Z over a GT-R... 6mt and rwd FTW... I do love GT-Rs though.. My dads is a blast to drive

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Originally Posted by RandyD (Post 1505390)

test drive it and see the difference :)

Thats why I am thinking about it now... I drove in one over the weekend. long story short a gt-r parked next to me and the guy came out seen me gawking at his car and straight up said "wanna go for a ride?"

My momma always said dont get in any strangers car but hey how could I turn it down?!

I have always been happy witht he Z and its performance coming from an STI I do miss the turbo and fun in the snow but the Z has its way of creeping up on you. It just needs a little more power in my opinion and the rest of my upgrading was just cosmetic that I personally wanted.

After seeing/driving in the GT-R it was S. E. X. it had what I missed from the subaru, plus the power... its got me on one.

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 1505433)

If you can.. Why not? Personally I would rather have a nodded Z over a GT-R... 6mt and rwd for the win... I do love GT-Rs though.. My dads is A blast to drive

Thats what also is pulling me in the direction of the Z I love working on my own cars, modding and just making something mine.

The GT-R I like the way it is and besides for a couple mods of course.

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Originally Posted by xgrudgex (Post 1505429)

Also take into consideration that there are certain issues with all GT-Rs that are worth mentioning; you will inevitably have issues with the valve seals in the transmission (they'll need to be replaced and it will happen to every GT-R at some point). Make sure to request a Consult 3 printout of the Flicker (black box) data on whether the car was launched or not. Also check to make sure that the maintenance has been kept up with. If over 18K, tranny fluid!!

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Originally Posted by 370Ztune (Post 1505465)

Thanks for the heads up! Ill be sure to get this checked out, but...
I dont expect to be getting a perfet car and will obviously have to deal with issues at some point in time... for being launched I think it would be hard for someone to find one that hasnt, how many of us that baby our Z's never get on her every once in a while? it would be nice to find that perfect used car tho
As for the valve seals... It sucks that Ill have to replace that at some point but given that I take my Z a couple times a month I wouldnt expect to replace it at any point relatively soon and if I do have to replace it then so be it, its part of buying a used car. I learned then when I bought my first STI in 05' :(

What other negative things do you have for me on the GT-R...?

Sicne used is the route you are taking I actually was on cars.com and looked up used GTR's the other day just to see where they are at now days. Saw a white 09 with 20k miles for 49k.

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...nal&listType=3

here you go, sounds like a good price to me and i bet you could knock a little off and get free delivery of the vehicle to your city

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Originally Posted by xgrudgex (Post 1505524)

"Launching" the GTR refers to engaging launch control, and on earlier models it's problematic. Head over the NAGTROC and read up. Great group of folks over there for the most part.

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Originally Posted by murphman (Post 1505538)

Sicne used is the route you are taking I actually was on cars.com and looked up used GTR's the other day just to see where they are at now days. Saw a white 09 with 20k miles for 49k.

2009 Nissan GT-R Premium, $49,300 - Cars.com

here you go, sounds like a good price to me and i bet you could knock a little off and get free delivery of the vehicle to your city

I think this might be one of the scams that's been going around...

there's either something MAJORLY wrong with that car^ or it's a complete scam. i have never seen a GTR below $60k no matter the mileage. no way that's for real

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Originally Posted by murphman (Post 1505538)

Thanks for the link!

Thats about the same ive seen in my area, but I am going to give it about 6 months to settle in and really make my decision. I dont want to make a wrong choice and they arent going anywhere.

Also I want to wait until my baby is born... not really my choice but that was the deal the old lady gave me :shakes head:

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Originally Posted by vividracing (Post 1505581)

"Launching" the GTR refers to engaging launch control, and on earlier models it's problematic. Head over the NAGTROC and read up. Great group of folks over there for the most part.

yeah i can help you out with any specific questions you might have

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Originally Posted by HKYStormFront (Post 1505600)

there's either something MAJORLY wrong with that car^ or it's a complete scam. i have never seen a GTR below $60k no matter the mileage. no way that's for real

Ive seen one for that price but higher mileage, as for my tartget price/mileage for what I have seen so far on average is around about 60K and 20K mileage...

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Originally Posted by MC (Post 1505602)

yeah i can help you out with any specific questions you might have

What does problematic mean?

Only while launch control is enguaged or....?

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Originally Posted by xgrudgex (Post 1505621)

What does problematic mean?

Only while launch control is enguaged or....?

from our FAQ its a good read for those considering buying a GTR new or Used

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4B. Tell me about Launch Control.
The first USMY2009 GT-Rs originally shipped with a launch control system popularly referred to as LC1. It was enabled by putting the car's transmission/suspension/VDC in manual+race/race/off modes. From there, holding the brake would allow you to rev the car to 4,500rpm with the accelerator pedal at the wide open throttle position. The instant you lift off the brake, the computer will drop the clutches and the car will launch forward. This yields 0-60 times of 3.3-3.6 seconds depending on the surface. It's an extremely aggressive launch and is very hard on the transmission internals. It's use is not warrantied by Nissan.

Starting with the USMY2010 GT-R, Nissan offered a new Launch Control, "LC2". LC2 is easier on its gears than LC1. At launch, up to 3000rpms are used as opposed to the 4500rpms seen in LC1. A customer satisfaction program was offered that allowed 2009 owners to upgrade to this new transmission software, aswell as mandated that all unsold 2009 inventory be upgraded be dealers. In its engagement, the transmission computer will slip the clutches as opposed to suddenly engaging them. LC2 is mode independent and is otherwise engaged via the same two step method. Using this technique, the GT-R's launch is somewhat more tame than LC1 but still more aggressive than flooring the gas pedal from a stop. Turning VDC OFF does not seem to effect the initial launch. Note that LC2 is widely viewed as being inconsistent- the RPMs given may vary. Also, LC2 equipped GT-Rs can be launched from higher RPM levels by using a pump method. This involves letting the RPMs drop down after reaching near 3K rpm then immediately slamming the accelerator back to the floor while the brake is still depressed. The results of this are not consistent but will yield more launch RPMs. In performance terms, LC2 is seen as being at least a tenth or two slower than LC1 although some initial tests found it's performance to be similar. Use of LC2 is warrantied by Nissan so long as VDC is ON. The GR6 appears to handle LC2 well- there have been no known failures from launching using it, despite some cars having much more than 200 launches on them .

For the USMY2011 GT-R, Nissan quietly revised the launch control system and created a revised system we refer to as "LC3" . LC3 can only be engaged with the GT-R in Manual+R/R/R but allows 3,300rpms quickly, reliably, and consistently. The launch from LC3 is reportedly better than that with LC2.

With it's platform revision for the USMY2012 GT-R, Nissan publicly announced a new, dedicated, Launch Control. This system called "R Mode Start" (what we term as LC4), is engaged by having the GT-R in Manual+R transmission and VDC settings . It enables a 4,000rpm launch that is reliable and consistent. It is more aggressive than any of the prior Launch Controls except LC1 and is as reliable as LC1. It can be used up to four times in a row before the GT-R must be driven for over a mile for the computer to allow additional launches. On an unmodified GT-R, it is widely viewed as the fastest Launch Control system to date. With the addition of 50 more horsepower, DBA-R35 GT-Rs can achieve 0-60mph times in under 3.0 seconds(2.88 official time) At a drag strip, 1.6 60' times are common. It is fully warrantied by Nissan.

*Note that with all launch control systems, certain requirements must be met including minimum and maximum transmission temperatures.

I'm guessing that LC4 can't be flashed into a 09-11 GTR?

Is there a lot of improvement seen if you were to Cobb pro-tune a stock '12 GT-R?

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Originally Posted by Brazilbro (Post 1505912)

I'm guessing that LC4 can't be flashed into a 09-11 GTR?

nope

there is a Cobb beta version that mimicks it but it isnt the offiical nissan program

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Originally Posted by djpathfinder (Post 1505930)

Is there a lot of improvement seen if you were to Cobb pro-tune a stock '12 GT-R?

yeah it responds very well to just a tune and midpipe... you can knock about 3 tenths off the 1/4 mile and run 10.7's or better

Well after all of the negative feed back I think I am just going to wait until a later model 12 becomes affordable so for now its go time on the Z :)

Thanks everyone for the feedback, comments and info! Much appreciated.

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Originally Posted by xgrudgex (Post 1506448)

Well after all of the negative feed back I think I am just going to wait until a later model 12 becomes affordable so for now its go time on the Z :)

Thanks everyone for the feedback, comments and info! Much appreciated.

"negative feedback"??? :confused:

If you dont like the GTR it is probably easy to trade it in and get another Z.

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Originally Posted by djpathfinder (Post 1506467)

"negative feedback"??? :confused:

Sorry I should be more specific, I recieved supportive feed back from the members on here, other forums, and a couple techs I know that work for Nissan.

It was supportive but all in all there are a lot of negatives that outweigh the kick a$% factor of the GT-R.

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Originally Posted by xgrudgex (Post 1507266)

What negatives are you referring to that made you change your mind?

I guess I will find out personally. :driving:

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Originally Posted by djpathfinder (Post 1518401)

I guess I will find out personally. :driving:

I was wondering when you'd chime in...:inoutroflpuke:

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Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 1518405)

I was wondering when you'd chime in...:inoutroflpuke:

I did a week ago...asking questions. :tup:

Sorry.... I'm not a troller.

Just picked up a jet black 2012 GT-R Black Edition on Feb 2! Very nice car! Love the Recaro seats. :driving: :excited: Pics in my album.

congrats DJ! did you sell your Z?

Thanks guys! Patrick, I haven't yet but will be.

OP, I might the rolling eyes from some but why not get both? Keep the Z and get a GTR. The Z being the fun, engaging car with low upkeep for normal errands; the GTR being the exotic monster for special outings. That's the route I'm engaging on; the curves, lines, price to value ratio and performance of the Z make it hard for me to ever let it go and replace it so I will add to the collection.

Congrats DJ, I hope to join you in a few years with the GTR experience. Enjoy the beast ;)