What Do GM's Troubles Mean for the Corvette?

Crash · 02-26-2009, 10:05 PM

CTS-V is a LOT faster than the ISF. (We've already raced them side-by-side...

)

Pontiac is going, but the Solstice will remain for some reason. (Retards...)

GM did this to themselves. Nobody wanted to buy American cars because they suck. I've got friends that will disagree and argue that until the end of time, but I know because I've owned them all. Dodge, Ford, GM... I've NEVER had a reliable American car. My 300zx is the first import I've ever owned personally and it's been the best car out of them all. My family has had many Nissans and Toyotas and have had less trouble with all of our Japanese cars put together than any one single American car we've owned.

American's seem to take less pride in their work because the idea of advancement is either made to look too easy or too hard to achieve and therefore there's little to no motivation to do better.

GM cut corners like it's a race around a square track. My corvette had crappy weld points, TERRIBLE fit and finish, and after pulling the heads and exhaust manifolds off, we found some of the worst craft work we've ever seen on any car. After porting the exhaust manifold (well, actually just finishing what they didn't do in bowling green), we had a much peppier car.

Fair well, GM. You were great until you weren't.

Zpil0t6 · 03-08-2009, 05:44 PM

Very impressive is the Zo6...its technologically an advanded car.....and i prefer tha NA sbc 427 as it will likely be the last of the big GM motors. It powerful and efficient.

i'm not worried...parts are abound the car is well made and many tuner shops have the ability to fix the car under the extended GMMP warrantee..... meaning if your dual patriot springs break they will replace performance parts under warrantte....as they are usually less expensive than dealer cost stock.

If anything this Z and the Zr1 will soon be worth more.
just have to hang in there for the lul b4 the high.

i mean i love my 370z LOVE it....but the Zo6 not intaked cammed and headered tuned.

stock is more car than many can exploit....take them off the runflats and 0-60's improve lateral g's improve ( also lowering em an inch helps that too..aero improvement.

i few tweaks to the stocker and it will scare you....i know there are some TT guys well 350Z guys saying yeah but...200 less lbs and NA torque flat and broad. that car gets to 100 in 7 second range i think i've got mine unofficially in the 6's though its worked on the few weak points and has added hp.

I'm not worried in the least....actually i want to get a CTS-v for the LSa engine and its reasonale 59k for a six speed. thats going fast with class....

Obama knows that the way GM goes the country goes. truly if the worst happens. Feel bad you didn't get em while they were hot.

Guaranteed they will go up in value...by 2012 when cafe regulation will all but kill any newer more powerful engines

though electric motors are very promising for thereinstant torque and incredible acceleration.

And the Zr1 a POS....please cause it smells of rubber and glue and plastic...has top gear ever heard of spraying fabreeze...or that new car smell.....trust me...at that speed your sense of smell is on hold...and the interior package aint bad. considering nobody is really gonna see it.....no opponent...lol

I wish GM well..but i'm prepared.

BanningZ · 03-08-2009, 06:50 PM

^lol. What?

frost · 03-08-2009, 08:08 PM

Crash · 03-09-2009, 04:43 AM

Yeah... I'm kind of not sure either.

shumby · 03-09-2009, 08:07 AM

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm k?

Zpil0t6 · 03-09-2009, 11:18 AM

drive one...it will be a collector..... a supercar that at 70k is very well made

equall to the 370 and the GT 35 R please dont be anti America its the best we have NA....and with non runflats if GM tanks its a diamond

name a car that cn 0-60 in 3.3 sans runftas and non FI

Crash · 03-09-2009, 03:47 PM

Wrightespeed X1.

Name another?

Zpil0t6 · 03-10-2009, 09:16 AM

Yeah but its not GM. GM has a bad rap. poor quality....undersirible looks.

The lower HP than a Zr1 coupled with non runflats allows it to hook up better
I've never even heard of that car.. Oh wait a concept /prototype Ariel Atom TYPE car.

Its cool But not a car you could travel say from chicago to new york now is it?
good one though 3 seconds 0-60.....a track car only.

ok 0-60 in 3.3 and do 200+ mph. Made in America GM is on a roll...if they tank we shall never know what they could have done.

the Zo6 c6 was the homerun America has been waiting for from GM.

and if its out of production with supercar performance and a nice interior
it will be a "diamond" most Zo6 owners treat them as there pet.

Ever see one dirty or overlyy overely done. ( yes ii saw the picture of a horrid looking one but still likely appealing to a youth.)

Crash · 03-10-2009, 02:47 PM

OK.. I'm starting to understand you sentences... LOL

The wrightspeed x1 will go any distance. Just because it's battery powered doesn't mean it's not going to make a 3000 mile trip. It's not a track-day only car at all. I could drive it as a daily just as easily as a Z06... And probably easier.

There's still plenty of cars out there that will fit the bill. The LS7 is a maxed out motor without forced induction. The ZR-1 is a better car, IMO, because it's a smaller displacement but with FI. A car with 600+ HP wouldn't have a problem hooking up if it has the right tires. Street tires are the only tires you have issues on. My car club has a few 600+hp cars that roll around on Drag Radials. They still spin tire a little bit, but who said racing was all about mashing the gas? Still takes a degree of control even to go straight. My N/A 300zx will cross the 1/4 mile with me driving it before a kid that can't drive crosses the 1/4 mile driving a 500HP car. Likely they'll spin tire all the way down the track and NEVER hook.

GM makes some cars OK and some cars like crap. But to get a car that's made well, you have to pay $50K+. Honestly, I don't understand that at all. You can buy a Nissan with awesome build quality for 30K and it will perform quite well, come with the option Navigation (as GM only offers that in trucks and $50K+ cars), and comes with more standard features.

02-26-2009, 10:05 PM	#16 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 589	CTS-V is a LOT faster than the ISF. (We've already raced them side-by-side... ) Pontiac is going, but the Solstice will remain for some reason. (Retards...) GM did this to themselves. Nobody wanted to buy American cars because they suck. I've got friends that will disagree and argue that until the end of time, but I know because I've owned them all. Dodge, Ford, GM... I've NEVER had a reliable American car. My 300zx is the first import I've ever owned personally and it's been the best car out of them all. My family has had many Nissans and Toyotas and have had less trouble with all of our Japanese cars put together than any one single American car we've owned. American's seem to take less pride in their work because the idea of advancement is either made to look too easy or too hard to achieve and therefore there's little to no motivation to do better. GM cut corners like it's a race around a square track. My corvette had crappy weld points, TERRIBLE fit and finish, and after pulling the heads and exhaust manifolds off, we found some of the worst craft work we've ever seen on any car. After porting the exhaust manifold (well, actually just finishing what they didn't do in bowling green), we had a much peppier car. Fair well, GM. You were great until you weren't. __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary Last edited by Crash; 02-27-2009 at 04:57 AM.

03-08-2009, 05:44 PM	#17 (permalink)
Zpil0t6 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 52 Drives: 07 Zo6,06 GTO,05Busa Rep Power: 16	Very impressive is the Zo6...its technologically an advanded car.....and i prefer tha NA sbc 427 as it will likely be the last of the big GM motors. It powerful and efficient. i'm not worried...parts are abound the car is well made and many tuner shops have the ability to fix the car under the extended GMMP warrantee..... meaning if your dual patriot springs break they will replace performance parts under warrantte....as they are usually less expensive than dealer cost stock. If anything this Z and the Zr1 will soon be worth more. just have to hang in there for the lul b4 the high. i mean i love my 370z LOVE it....but the Zo6 not intaked cammed and headered tuned. stock is more car than many can exploit....take them off the runflats and 0-60's improve lateral g's improve ( also lowering em an inch helps that too..aero improvement. i few tweaks to the stocker and it will scare you....i know there are some TT guys well 350Z guys saying yeah but...200 less lbs and NA torque flat and broad. that car gets to 100 in 7 second range i think i've got mine unofficially in the 6's though its worked on the few weak points and has added hp. I'm not worried in the least....actually i want to get a CTS-v for the LSa engine and its reasonale 59k for a six speed. thats going fast with class.... Obama knows that the way GM goes the country goes. truly if the worst happens. Feel bad you didn't get em while they were hot. Guaranteed they will go up in value...by 2012 when cafe regulation will all but kill any newer more powerful engines though electric motors are very promising for thereinstant torque and incredible acceleration. And the Zr1 a POS....please cause it smells of rubber and glue and plastic...has top gear ever heard of spraying fabreeze...or that new car smell.....trust me...at that speed your sense of smell is on hold...and the interior package aint bad. considering nobody is really gonna see it.....no opponent...lol I wish GM well..but i'm prepared. Last edited by Zpil0t6; 03-08-2009 at 06:50 PM.

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Zpil0t6 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 52 Drives: 07 Zo6,06 GTO,05Busa Rep Power: 16	drive one...it will be a collector..... a supercar that at 70k is very well made equall to the 370 and the GT 35 R please dont be anti America its the best we have NA....and with non runflats if GM tanks its a diamond name a car that cn 0-60 in 3.3 sans runftas and non FI

03-09-2009, 03:47 PM	#23 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 589	Wrightespeed X1. Name another? __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

03-10-2009, 09:16 AM	#24 (permalink)
Zpil0t6 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 52 Drives: 07 Zo6,06 GTO,05Busa Rep Power: 16	Yeah but its not GM. GM has a bad rap. poor quality....undersirible looks. The lower HP than a Zr1 coupled with non runflats allows it to hook up better I've never even heard of that car.. Oh wait a concept /prototype Ariel Atom TYPE car. Its cool But not a car you could travel say from chicago to new york now is it? good one though 3 seconds 0-60.....a track car only. ok 0-60 in 3.3 and do 200+ mph. Made in America GM is on a roll...if they tank we shall never know what they could have done. the Zo6 c6 was the homerun America has been waiting for from GM. and if its out of production with supercar performance and a nice interior it will be a "diamond" most Zo6 owners treat them as there pet. Ever see one dirty or overlyy overely done. ( yes ii saw the picture of a horrid looking one but still likely appealing to a youth.) Last edited by Zpil0t6; 03-10-2009 at 09:33 AM.

03-10-2009, 02:47 PM	#25 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 589	OK.. I'm starting to understand you sentences... LOL The wrightspeed x1 will go any distance. Just because it's battery powered doesn't mean it's not going to make a 3000 mile trip. It's not a track-day only car at all. I could drive it as a daily just as easily as a Z06... And probably easier. There's still plenty of cars out there that will fit the bill. The LS7 is a maxed out motor without forced induction. The ZR-1 is a better car, IMO, because it's a smaller displacement but with FI. A car with 600+ HP wouldn't have a problem hooking up if it has the right tires. Street tires are the only tires you have issues on. My car club has a few 600+hp cars that roll around on Drag Radials. They still spin tire a little bit, but who said racing was all about mashing the gas? Still takes a degree of control even to go straight. My N/A 300zx will cross the 1/4 mile with me driving it before a kid that can't drive crosses the 1/4 mile driving a 500HP car. Likely they'll spin tire all the way down the track and NEVER hook. GM makes some cars OK and some cars like crap. But to get a car that's made well, you have to pay $50K+. Honestly, I don't understand that at all. You can buy a Nissan with awesome build quality for 30K and it will perform quite well, come with the option Navigation (as GM only offers that in trucks and $50K+ cars), and comes with more standard features. __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

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